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Old Feb 16, 2011 | 02:27 PM
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[QUOTE=seoul2k,Feb 16 2011, 02:19 PM] wait so you grinded down the caliper???
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Old Feb 16, 2011 | 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Duke Togo,Feb 16 2011, 03:17 PM
Yeah just me and 10,000 other people every year who shave down calipers for wheel fitment all over the world. People who race on those calipers not troll forums to call other people dumb because they don't know anything more than someone told them one time.

BTW when you think you know more about the subject especially for Hondas than Randy at Fastbrakes LMK. Chances are though you have not even 1/10th the experience nor the knowledge that this is common practice.
I think just you. Feel free to reference all of these other 10,000 people.

Luckily for me I've actually been to more races then I can count and worked on race cars and not a single race car in any race I've been to had a shaved down caliper. People that race don't cheap out and not put long studs in and shave down a caliper to fit behind an ill fitting wheel.

And since you mentioned Fastbrakes, who seems to offer discount to NASA members, which I am, I can guarantee you that no way would a race car with shaved down caliper pass tech inspection.
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Old Feb 16, 2011 | 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Duke Togo,Feb 16 2011, 03:27 PM
And if you think that Brides are something to brag about safety wise, fail your stock seats have stronger frames.
So you think a FIA rated rigid back seat is weaker then a non-FIA tested non-fixed back seat. Please go away now.
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Old Feb 16, 2011 | 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Voodoo_S2K,Feb 16 2011, 04:06 PM
I think just you. Feel free to reference all of these other 10,000 people.

Luckily for me I've actually been to more races then I can count and worked on race cars and not a single race car in any race I've been to had a shaved down caliper. People that race don't cheap out and not put long studs in and shave down a caliper to fit behind an ill fitting wheel.

And since you mentioned Fastbrakes, who seems to offer discount to NASA members, which I am, I can guarantee you that no way would a race car with shaved down caliper pass tech inspection.
Now your flat out lying, any SCCA pro level race will have cars with modified calipers, any from autox to wheel to wheel - fact. Sometimes it's for wheel fitment other times it's to remove flashing which causes hot spots, other times for logo removal (cheating) other times for weight loss and many times for clearance of brake ducting.

I know people that race in HC right now with shaved calipers and please don't get me started about NASA tech.

Go ahead and impress me with your all the times you've been to a races because I never held a competition license with the SCCA worked pit crew for years or spent over 15 years building cars professionally... sarcasm. All the races lol I've been to thousands so what.

And since your failing so much I was obviously comparing street car seats to street car seats when speaking about bride. If you want to talk about race buckets in a street car without a full roll cage to mount and brace brace them properly yeah I am saying the stock seats are safer - duh welcome to reality. The stock s2000 seats are designed to absorb energy to a point and then fail so your body doesn't absorb all of it.

Tell me when a car with a fia approved single piece racing seat alone gets a 5 star crash test rating.

BTW while your feeling so high and mighty you might actually call fast brakes and try learning something instead of acting like you know.
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Old Feb 16, 2011 | 04:37 PM
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There is a significant difference between removing a little bit of material (most likely from a BBK) and remove 6mm's worth (OEM caliper) because you don't want to install longer studs.

A FIA rating for a seat is the same if it mounted to a cage or the floor pan. That doesn't change, therefore the seat isn't any less safe. Nor is a back brace a requirement for FIA rating.

Tell me when a stock S2000 seat receives a FIA rating.

And not to bash on Fastbrakes, but since you keep on talking about them like they are the world's experts on brakes. Last time I checked, they don't do any brake manufacturing or engineering. They are just a VAR. As a matter of fact, the brackets that they ship for their Integra/NSX caliper conversion doesn't even center the caliper correctly.

Anyways, it was fun thumping chests with you. If you think it's perfectly safe to shave 6mm's off your caliper, all you.
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Old Feb 16, 2011 | 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Duke Togo,Feb 16 2011, 07:27 PM
lol @ more repeaters

I hate to crush your world but Bride doesnt make there own seats a contractor does in Taiwan and do you want to know why the fakes are so good, guess ?

And if you think that Brides are something to brag about safety wise, fail your stock seats have stronger frames.
So your saying that bride seats are contracted out of taiwan?? where are you getting this information. If you contact any bride distributor in the USA they will insure you that bride seats are only made in japan. the real ones at least. if you talk to the rep at tee's USA they will tell you the same thing i just did.
I never said anything about comparing them to stock seats. There was a thread not to long ago about a kid trying to buy fake brides. He also ignored everyone's advice. That is why i said the thing about seats. Not to brag about brides.

Maybe i was wrong about the brakes, but when it comes to safety i would spend the extra 300-1000 w/e amount to do things right. Rather not be handicapped for the rest of my life because i wanted to spare a couple of bucks.

get off your high horse cowboy
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Old Feb 16, 2011 | 07:33 PM
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K well i bought some 5 mm spacers how will that be with be? ?
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Old Feb 17, 2011 | 05:26 AM
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Originally Posted by ertbll,Feb 16 2011, 08:33 PM
K well i bought some 5 mm spacers how will that be with be? ?
You're giving up 3.33 turns on the lugs. If that takes you below 6 FULL turns of engagement, you need longer studs. 6 turns on a 12x1.5 lug is the *bare minimum*, giving engagement of 3/4 the stud diameter.
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Old Feb 17, 2011 | 12:45 PM
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take it easy ppl...I was just saking questions. I have not and dont plan on installing the spacers. Just asking for everyone's opinions...relax...
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Old Feb 17, 2011 | 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Voodoo_S2K,Feb 16 2011, 05:37 PM
There is a significant difference between removing a little bit of material (most likely from a BBK) and remove 6mm's worth (OEM caliper) because you don't want to install longer studs.

A FIA rating for a seat is the same if it mounted to a cage or the floor pan. That doesn't change, therefore the seat isn't any less safe. Nor is a back brace a requirement for FIA rating.

Tell me when a stock S2000 seat receives a FIA rating.

And not to bash on Fastbrakes, but since you keep on talking about them like they are the world's experts on brakes. Last time I checked, they don't do any brake manufacturing or engineering. They are just a VAR. As a matter of fact, the brackets that they ship for their Integra/NSX caliper conversion doesn't even center the caliper correctly.

Anyways, it was fun thumping chests with you. If you think it's perfectly safe to shave 6mm's off your caliper, all you.
Brides are not made in Japan, I know this because I've talked to and had people visit some of the contractors in Taiwan that make most of these parts people call jdm including bride.

For a bunch of reasons including labor cost, material cost, transport costs and the fact that Taiwan has some of the most advanced equipment for production available.

I also know this because it was admitted several years ago that there biggest case of "forgery" came from employees making after hour production runs. A common practice in Taiwan among many others like stealing packaged containers of carbon fiber hoods and reselling them.

There may be certain exceptions to every rule and the phrase final assembly is used alot.

"last time you checked"

When have you checked ?

Fastbrakes does manufacture brakes, they do there own kits with CS rotors and they adapt other companies parts like Wilwood for other applications which they build.

The first rear disk conversions for the Fit, only BBK's for the Ridgeline, custom Alcon kits for professional teams. If you had ever actually checked that would be apparent. If you called right now he could give you the complete specs for the rotors for an s2k off the top of his head. So before you go saying what other people have done you should actually check first.

An FIA rating is a 10,000 dollar piece of paper that means nothing is a street car, a FIA bride seat in a street s2000 is not going to be mounted on a steel tube frame and sitting inside instead of on a seat can cause a tremendous amount of lateral force in a side impact enough to cause internal bleeding and kill you near instantly.

Not to harp on this but the end result is you telling people not to do something because you think while other people who make there lively hoods are saying you can because they know.

If you want to talk about dangerous practices you only need to look at people running 10inch wide rear wheels on factory unsupported hubs especially with high grip tires at track days and that's considered "the norm"






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