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Originally Posted by Jim@tirerack,Sep 28 2009, 05:33 PM
If I can help let me know.
Hehe, you can:
I've got a set of 4 Dunlop WinterSport M2's, and the rears (225/50) are worn out. If I go 225/50/16, I need to get the Wintersport M3s, for $129 each. Or, I can go 205/55/16, and get one of two Wintersport 3Ds, or one of two kinds of WinterSport 3Ds (one for $98, one for $108) or M3s for $138. (all prices on tire rack)
Clearly, I'd like to just get the $98 WinterSport 3Ds, but not if there is a compelling reason to get something else, or get 225s. My tires will mostly be used for commuting here in Chicago, nothing dramatic.
Are the $98 3Ds okay, or do I need the bigger size, or the $108 pair?
Let me know, I'm going to order at the end of October or so.
I agree, I always look for the best traction in the worst conditions. You can always bring down the driving limits in the dry but when you need the most traction on an icy road you either have it or you don't.
If I can help with the tires let me know.
The rebates run through 10/09.
so i live in Montana and where i live we don't get a lot of snow that often but sometimes we do and i travel a lot around the state i just picked up my S2000 and am new to rear wheel cars and staggered fitments and im looking at getting blizzacks and i was wondering whether to run stock sizes on my ap1 or go with non staggered all the way around and what are some of the benefits and what size should i order?
any help you can give me would be greatly appreciated
Originally Posted by AvengingRomance,Oct 5 2009, 11:33 AM
so i live in Montana and where i live we don't get a lot of snow that often but sometimes we do and i travel a lot around the state i just picked up my S2000 and am new to rear wheel cars and staggered fitments and im looking at getting blizzacks and i was wondering whether to run stock sizes on my ap1 or go with non staggered all the way around and what are some of the benefits and what size should i order?
-Jaysin
I answered all these questions in post 5 of this thread
Originally Posted by AvengingRomance,Oct 5 2009, 11:33 AM
any help you can give me would be greatly appreciated
I'm always amazed how easily these severely UNDER rated tires like the Blizzaks WS60 are adviced here. The speed rating is incredibly low (R = 170 km/h which translates to 45 mph too low compared to the car's top speed).
Buyer beware... Overtaking a car 'spiritedly' might already be pushing the limits on these tires. Remember there are fantastic sunny and dry days in the winter too...
We get rough snow only a few days each winter but it can get really cold.I'm one of those who has to go when it snows and I can't wait for the snow plow. Jim sold me this setup last year; it's a 16in wheel setup for my AP2. I love them.
Originally Posted by Chris Stack,Sep 28 2009, 03:38 PM
I've got a set of 4 Dunlop WinterSport M2's, and the rears one of two kinds of WinterSport 3Ds (one for $98, one for $108) or M3s for $138. (all prices on tire rack)
Clearly, I'd like to just get the $98 WinterSport 3Ds, but not if there is a compelling reason to get something else, or get 225s.
Yes, you can run 3Ds in the back.
The $138 is a run-flat (ROF) and you don't want that.
The other two differ in speed rating, load rating and weight:
$98 H rated (130mph), 1356 lbs (load), 21lbs (tire weight)
$108 V rated (149mph), 1477 lbs (load), 23lbs (tire weight)
I just ordered a set and got the V rated. H would probably work but I'd consult the tire rack on that.
There is a new $50 rebate on Dunlops through 11/29:
I'm always amazed how easily these severely UNDER rated tires like the Blizzaks WS60 are adviced here. The speed rating is incredibly low (R = 170 km/h which translates to 45 mph too low compared to the car's top speed).
Buyer beware... Overtaking a car 'spiritedly' might already be pushing the limits on these tires. Remember there are fantastic sunny and dry days in the winter too...
Just my $0.02
Siepel
The reason for this is simple, the MAXIMUM speed limit is 70-75 mph. The speed rating of a tire is not in any way applicable to short passing bursts, but specifically to the heat buildup from sustained driving. (like you might find in Germany...)
In the US and Canada there are many places that simply don't plow or plow two days later. That is when you need the tube multicell design that works so well on ice. I have had many days in Montana where AWD and pirelli snows were not enough, even michelin studs did not work. This car needs all the help it can get in the winter. Before I moved to Cali I would drive mountain passes all day long and can blather endlessely about tire design, compounding and stud patterns, there is simply no substitute for the Blizzack when conditions get bad.
OMG I went to order blizzaks last night and tire racks site has been acting like shit so I gave up, thinking it would be fine today... nope today I am still having problems with their site (even at work) so I missed out on their sale price on the blizzaks... (even tho the sale ended yesterday, which i didn't know cuz i couldn't get onto tirerack) grrrr
