S2000 Electronics Information and discussion related to S2000 electronics such as ICE, GPS, and alarms.

Replaced stock door speakers, but they sound the same/worse?

Thread Tools
 
Old 10-01-2014, 08:01 AM
  #1  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
sg611's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 27
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Replaced stock door speakers, but they sound the same/worse?

I replaced the stock speakers with Polk DB651s but they don't sound any better. If anything, maybe a little quieter. Why could this be? I'm not a big audio guy. Do I need a little amp to power the door speakers to sound better? Should I send them back?

Edit: I have a Pioneer DEH-X6600BT head unit.

Any suggestions would be awesome, thanks.
Old 10-01-2014, 08:02 AM
  #2  

 
AE_Racer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Florida
Posts: 3,643
Received 7 Likes on 7 Posts
Default

Im assuming you still have the OEM headunit, so i'd start with upgrading that.
Old 10-01-2014, 08:04 AM
  #3  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
sg611's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 27
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by AE_Racer
Im assuming you still have the OEM headunit, so i'd start with upgrading that.
I was editing my post while you posted.
I have a Pioneer DEH-X6600BT.
Old 10-01-2014, 08:21 AM
  #4  
Site Moderator

 
sam_spider's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Michigan
Posts: 48,221
Received 2,618 Likes on 1,918 Posts
Default

Those speakers need an amp. They need more power.
Old 10-01-2014, 09:44 AM
  #5  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
sg611's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 27
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by sam_spider
Those speakers need an amp. They need more power.
The head unit says it has a built-in 50wx4 amplifier and the speakers say they are 55w (max 165) speakers. What do you recommend I do? Telling me I need an amp doesn't lead me anywhere.
Old 10-01-2014, 10:26 AM
  #6  
Community Organizer

 
Fokker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 3,168
Received 53 Likes on 46 Posts
Default

The 50x4 rating is the peak output, that HU is most likely putting out 20-22 watts RMS per channel. Those speakers are rated 60RMS/180Peak and this JBL amp would fit the bill. I'm not sure why you downgraded to two ways though. It's going to sound better with the highs lifted off the floorboards.
Old 10-01-2014, 12:45 PM
  #7  
oth

 
oth's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: NJ USA
Posts: 1,556
Received 54 Likes on 49 Posts
Default

The OEM speakers, intended to be used with a low-power OEM headunit, are fairly efficient, so
aftermarket ones likely won't be louder, but hopefully will sound better.
The s2000 is noisy, so IMO it's not possible to have a good-sounding system without an external
amplifier - your headunit, per Crutchfield, puts out a whopping 14 watts RMS - you can see why they
like to talk about the meaningless "peak" number.
As for whether the you should keep the speakers - if they sound good to you sitting in the driveway,
then adding more power may work for driving, but if they don't sound good to you then, adding
more power will just make the crappy sound louder.
Early cars (00-01) used only speakers in the lower door, but newer cars used separate woofers and
(high-mounted) tweeters, and would normally be replaced with a 2-way component system such as
the Polk db 6501, but ultimately what matters is how it sounds to you, and how much you want to spend.
Old 10-02-2014, 08:41 AM
  #8  
Community Organizer

 
alSpeed2k's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: The 604
Posts: 10,586
Received 76 Likes on 60 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Fokker
The 50x4 rating is the peak output, that HU is most likely putting out 20-22 watts RMS per channel. Those speakers are rated 60RMS/180Peak and this JBL amp would fit the bill. I'm not sure why you downgraded to two ways though. It's going to sound better with the highs lifted off the floorboards.
I'm in a similar situation to the OP. Except I went with JL-Audio-TR650-CSi speakers and an Alpine deck. Would that JBL amp work with my set-up, any idea how would it compare with Alpine's own KTP-445a? TIA!
Old 10-02-2014, 10:31 AM
  #9  
Community Organizer

 
Fokker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 3,168
Received 53 Likes on 46 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by alSpeed2k
Originally Posted by Fokker' timestamp='1412188002' post='23352537
The 50x4 rating is the peak output, that HU is most likely putting out 20-22 watts RMS per channel. Those speakers are rated 60RMS/180Peak and this JBL amp would fit the bill. I'm not sure why you downgraded to two ways though. It's going to sound better with the highs lifted off the floorboards.
I'm in a similar situation to the OP. Except I went with JL-Audio-TR650-CSi speakers and an Alpine deck. Would that JBL amp work with my set-up, any idea how would it compare with Alpine's own KTP-445a? TIA!
That JBL amp is too powerful for those speakers, the KTP-445a's output would match those speakers really well. The main thing to keep in mind when selecting an amp in regards to power output is that you want to closely match the RMS output of the amp to the speakers' RMS rating without exceeding it or exceeding the Peak output rating of the speakers.
Old 10-09-2014, 06:09 PM
  #10  
Community Organizer

 
Pinky's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Chapel Hill, NC
Posts: 8,562
Received 91 Likes on 76 Posts
Default

It's harder to blow out a speaker by overpowering it vs under powering it.

Clean undistorted high power ...... you could far exceed the RMS without worry. Try and crank your head unit to max to try and move some big speakers and you are going to burn out that speaker in no time!
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
thelonerangers
S2000 Electronics
5
02-10-2014 03:59 AM
sodaking663rd
S2000 Electronics
7
09-24-2006 08:38 AM
Mike in Atlanta
S2000 Electronics
7
09-02-2004 11:47 AM
BlueS2000Boy
S2000 Electronics
4
10-13-2003 11:51 AM
ElTianti
S2000 Electronics
9
01-19-2002 08:10 PM



Quick Reply: Replaced stock door speakers, but they sound the same/worse?



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 06:14 PM.