want better turn in
#1
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want better turn in
i'm after immidiate turn in.
current setup:
- tein monflex 12kg front / 10 kg rear, set for 13 (16 is softest)
- eibach front and rear sways set for softest (suppose to be 65/90 f/r vs stock ap2 47/68)
- volk re30 STAGGERED wheels with a bit different offsets than stock - front EXTEND an extra 11mm, rear EXTEND an extra 8mm (according to net calculator)
- ride height ~0.9" lower than stock
- tires Toyo R1R staggered 215/245
- tire pressure - 37-38 on hot
current allingment:
Front:
- camber 2 1/4
- caster 5.5 (i hate "heavy" steering)
- toe out total 2.5 mm
Rear:
- camber 2
- toe in total 5 mm
currently handling is quite neutral but turn in is not fast as i would like it to be.
anything i can do with allingment to improve it?
seams to me increasing front camber and toe out should help - but i'm concerned with crazy tyre wear....
current setup:
- tein monflex 12kg front / 10 kg rear, set for 13 (16 is softest)
- eibach front and rear sways set for softest (suppose to be 65/90 f/r vs stock ap2 47/68)
- volk re30 STAGGERED wheels with a bit different offsets than stock - front EXTEND an extra 11mm, rear EXTEND an extra 8mm (according to net calculator)
- ride height ~0.9" lower than stock
- tires Toyo R1R staggered 215/245
- tire pressure - 37-38 on hot
current allingment:
Front:
- camber 2 1/4
- caster 5.5 (i hate "heavy" steering)
- toe out total 2.5 mm
Rear:
- camber 2
- toe in total 5 mm
currently handling is quite neutral but turn in is not fast as i would like it to be.
anything i can do with allingment to improve it?
seams to me increasing front camber and toe out should help - but i'm concerned with crazy tyre wear....
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I normally run around the 6-10 range when I drive on those dampers which should help a bit. Try 7 and tune from there, it'll give you a bit more low speed rebound that'll translate to a delay in roll which will increase transitional speed.
You can also try running zero toe. You get pretty decent suspension movement with those spring rates and the car toes out a decent amount under compression which will possibly give too much toe out and make it a bit numb on entry.
Videos are great so if you have any post them up.
You can also try running zero toe. You get pretty decent suspension movement with those spring rates and the car toes out a decent amount under compression which will possibly give too much toe out and make it a bit numb on entry.
Videos are great so if you have any post them up.
#7
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Why are you running toe-out up front? I'd start here and go to factory spec 0 front toe.
I second the solution of softening the front dampers. Stiff=quick turn in until you start breaking the front tires loose into understeer at turn in.
I second the solution of softening the front dampers. Stiff=quick turn in until you start breaking the front tires loose into understeer at turn in.
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