FIA Decision
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an interesting article from espn site....
http://sports.espn.go.com/rpm/news/story?s...Id=6&id=3022702
I am not sure how I feel about any of it; but it definitely tainted my weekend enjoyment of a wonderful circuit returning to the schedule!
I absolutely love Spa, and look forward to going next year. I imagine being there did indeed feel a bit weird/somber.
In regards to the Drivers title being compromised; I agree with something he says at the end of the article...
So if the car is disqualified from the Constructors title, how can the drivers still compete in a car made by a team that has just been removed? It makes little sense.
Along with the entire punishment IMHO.
http://sports.espn.go.com/rpm/news/story?s...Id=6&id=3022702
I am not sure how I feel about any of it; but it definitely tainted my weekend enjoyment of a wonderful circuit returning to the schedule!
I absolutely love Spa, and look forward to going next year. I imagine being there did indeed feel a bit weird/somber.
I would have taken all the points away from Hamilton and Alonso on the grounds that there is a suspicion they had an advantage that they should not have had.
FIA chief Max Mosley
FIA chief Max Mosley
"A driver can be disqualified because his car is a kilo underweight, it wouldn't make a difference but you have to have the principle.
Along with the entire punishment IMHO.
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[QUOTE=f1_fanz,Sep 16 2007, 03:26 PM] At a race preview party on Saturday night in Aachen hosted by Peter Windsor, he stated his feeling that no fine of any kind should have been imposed on McLaren, and I agree whole-heartedly.
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Bringing knowledge is one thing. Bringing a hard copy of all technical specifications is another. Certainly all teams cheat. I suspect most teams don't have 700 pages of technical documents directly from a competitor.
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Originally Posted by WFO Racer,Sep 16 2007, 08:22 PM
The Speed Report reported that a Mclaren employee is working for Ferrari this year after leaving McLaren last year.
Yup no secrets are being shared between the teams, wink wink.
They all cheat, some just get caught.
Yup no secrets are being shared between the teams, wink wink.
They all cheat, some just get caught.
The fact that an employee is hired by a competitor does NOT indicate any IP has gone along with the employee. If both the employee and the company are ethical, the employee will not provide proprietary secrets that the employee knows about his former employer.
To say "everybody cheats" usually means that you yourself cheat, and you want to feel better about your guilt.
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Originally Posted by mikegarrison,Sep 16 2007, 07:50 PM
This sort of thing does happen. However, there is a difference between using your skills and general knowlege for your new employer and using your specific knowlege about the competitor.
The fact that an employee is hired by a competitor does NOT indicate any IP has gone along with the employee. If both the employee and the company are ethical, the employee will not provide proprietary secrets that the employee knows about his former employer.
To say "everybody cheats" usually means that you yourself cheat, and you want to feel better about your guilt.
The fact that an employee is hired by a competitor does NOT indicate any IP has gone along with the employee. If both the employee and the company are ethical, the employee will not provide proprietary secrets that the employee knows about his former employer.
To say "everybody cheats" usually means that you yourself cheat, and you want to feel better about your guilt.
FIAT's Chairman Luca was very proud he got thru college by using others work, admitting this to a graduating class during his speech.
How about, in 2006, in the Argentinian Magazine Ol
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A couple last thoughts, if the lads at Woking benefitted from the Ferrari data why the hell are drivers allowed to continue without a penalty yet the manufacturers gets stolen from them when this was all caused by a Ferrari employee?
Lastly if I see that "they stole my escargo face" on that cunning Frenchman Todt in person I would kick him in the balls if he had any.
Lastly if I see that "they stole my escargo face" on that cunning Frenchman Todt in person I would kick him in the balls if he had any.
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From: West Henrietta UPSTATE NY
[QUOTE=Hootsama,Sep 15 2007, 09:10 PM] Could Ferrari have purposely decided to supply misinformation to Coughlin via Stepney to implicate McLaren in a scandal to win the Championship?
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Originally Posted by WFO Racer,Sep 17 2007, 12:11 AM
A couple last thoughts, if the lads at Woking benefitted from the Ferrari data why the hell are drivers allowed to continue without a penalty yet the manufacturers gets stolen from them when this was all caused by a Ferrari employee?
And for the last time WFO - THIS WAS NOT CAUSED BY A FERRARI EMPLOYEE, it was caused by the dishonesty of McLaren!
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Originally Posted by f1_fanz,Sep 16 2007, 06:26 PM
The FIA went way overboard on this and its effects were clearly evident in Sunday's race. There was a somber feeling all over the paddock and the entire race seemed to lack "heart" or real "enthusiasm."
Must be you were watching a different race. The fans looked to be having a blast, and the only somber stuff I saw was Ron Dennis, and that's because he got caught with his hand in the cookie jar. And anybody and everybody associated with Spyker was jumping out of their skin with joy, just like the entire BMW Sauber team.