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Old May 18, 2010 | 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris S,May 18 2010, 09:01 PM
Sorry, but I wouldn't touch a car w/ $50K+ in brakes w/ a 10 ft. pole.
Well, whether you would or not is not a matter of issue at the moment, because only rich Japanese in Japan would touch the car, for collectibility reason if anything.
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Old May 18, 2010 | 09:28 PM
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[QUOTE=Steponme,May 19 2010, 02:42 AM] Are you for real?
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Old May 18, 2010 | 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Fanman,May 18 2010, 09:28 PM
It was a reference to the GT500 thread. But for a 132 lbs., even on this car it is not worth 2X the price. If they had added 50 hp as well then maybe, but some carbon fiber bits & a few suspension components is not worth $80,000. Hell, the upcoming 11' GT500 will have an SVT option with a 3.73 Limited, revised suspension, upgraded19" front 20" rear rims for less than $10K. That's the way it should be. Of course the Spec V will be limited in production because they won't find very many people willing to pony up $80K more for this model. And I thought Porsches ridiculous Turbo to GT2 pricing (+$50K) was absurd. GTR Spec V takes the cake.

$50K upgrade in brakes ? Absurd. The carbon ceramic brakes on Carrera GT's don't cost that much.
Clueless.

The Spec V is not a revised replacement of the regular GT-R, but a special, collectible, track-focus model aimed at rich enthusiasts. The revised replacement of the GT-R, as mentioned in the OP's post, will not have a double increase in price. Observe:

the R35 is expected to undergo a host of evolutionary changes, including some reworked aero bits, suspension and brake upgrades, and a retuned 3.8-liter twin-turbo V6 that's likely to output over 500 horsepower and 450 pound-feet of torque.
I love it when people mistakenly compare an orange to apple. Yes, the 2011 GT500 has a few changes over the '10 model and a slight price increase, but so will the '12 GT-R over the current model.
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Old May 18, 2010 | 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Steponme,May 19 2010, 05:32 AM
Clueless.

The Spec V is not a revised replacement of the GT-R, but a special, collectible, track-focus model aimed at rich enthusiasts. The revised replacement of the GT-R, as mentioned in the OP's post, does not have a double increase in price.
Idiot.

Who cares if it is a special, track focused edition. Is any car worth 2X their MSRP because 132 lbs, no engine upgrades. The GT3 is about $30K more expensive than a regular Carrera S, but offers less weight, MORE hp. The GT2 is $50K more than a turbo, adds MORE hp, less weight. A Scuderia adds $100K but gives much less weight, & MORE hp. Getting a clue. This model even makes the premium for a GT3 seem reasonable.

As a track focused model for the rich enthusiast that you claim, great, but this car will never have universal appeal. Limited run is great, as I said it would not sell many even if they made it generally available.

MSRP for the car is widely speculated at $150K-$160K, roughly twice the cose of a standard GT-R.
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Old May 19, 2010 | 04:52 AM
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[QUOTE=Steponme,May 18 2010, 09:04 PM] I thought you put me on the ignore list?
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Old May 19, 2010 | 05:39 AM
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Why did ethnicity suddenly make an appearance in this thread? Weird.

Anyway...

Originally Posted by parkerdw,May 18 2010, 09:14 PM
While it was once Nissan's official line to always replace rotors when your pads need replacing, they have since changed that to say it's ok to just replace pads as long as your rotor is still in good shape. The $7500 OEM/Dealer brake job issue has long since been solved by the aftermarket. There are numerous owners who track their GT-Rs and go through rotors/pads who have recommended many different pad/rotor combinations that cost just a fraction of that ridiculous Nissan number. While still not "cheap" it can be done for 2 - 3k or less for all 4 corners. The braking performance is also the same or better in most cases.
That's good info. I realize that the rotors/pads get well used hauling down a car with GT-R weight, but I also ran my Supra (~3700 lbs) really hard, and on track (Roebling and Sebring) and with an AP aftermarket setup, the rotors were fine between pad changes (even well into 10K's of mileage). I'm thinking a non-tracked GT-R would probably be fine putting 30K+ miles on a set of rotors (for "reasonable" street driving).
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Old May 19, 2010 | 05:46 AM
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This is for Steponme and rockville.

My advice is that the two of you ignore each other from now on and stop the name calling - you've both been warned about this bickering before, so don't act surprised.
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Old May 19, 2010 | 05:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Steponme,May 18 2010, 10:42 PM
1) $50K upgrade in brakes.


I like the car as much as you (Aside from the price) but c'mon bruh. 50K for brakes... BRAKES... They must come from Mark Webbers ride.

If they want to double the price of the car fine so be it but don't tell me the brakes really cost 50k. You're not slowing down an airbus a380.
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Old May 19, 2010 | 05:56 AM
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I cant imagine anyone in their right mind spending 150k on a nissan GTR, no matter how "special" they claim it is.

150k is exotic territory..... somewhere Nissan cant hope to compete with a giant ugly pig of a car like this...

Now if they made THIS Nissan(The way it looked in concept)




Then they would have a car with mass appeal, that could compete at that price point....

Only rich fanbois will buy this GTR
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Old May 19, 2010 | 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Fanman,May 18 2010, 09:45 PM
Idiot.

Who cares if it is a special, track focused edition. Is any car worth 2X their MSRP because 132 lbs, no engine upgrades. The GT3 is about $30K more expensive than a regular Carrera S, but offers less weight, MORE hp. The GT2 is $50K more than a turbo, adds MORE hp, less weight. A Scuderia adds $100K but gives much less weight, & MORE hp. Getting a clue. This model even makes the premium for a GT3 seem reasonable.

As a track focused model for the rich enthusiast that you claim, great, but this car will never have universal appeal. Limited run is great, as I said it would not sell many even if they made it generally available.

MSRP for the car is widely speculated at $150K-$160K, roughly twice the cose of a standard GT-R.
What it's worth is dictated by supply and demand, not your taste. To argue it's not "worth" a certain price knowing Nissan will probably sell all of them effortlessly is illogical. Honda sold all GT NSX's at somewhere in the neighborhood of 500k$ each with almost no functional difference versus the arguably already over priced 80$k NSX of the time. Ducati is selling a 200k motorcycle. Lamborghini puts a body kit on an LP and charges 200k more. If the market clears, that's what it's worth (at least until they try to re sell it).
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