2013 E92 M3 w/ Dual Clutch - not that much fun of a car! no love.
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03-12-2014, 05:55 AM
#22
Scot,
You will probably find someone to pay you more than you paid for it. After that Z06 deal, I have a feeling you know how to find cars at decent prices.
03-13-2014, 05:04 AM
#25
DCT is not as much fun as the 6MT but still not bad. I have a 10 M3 sedan with DCT and it's a great daily driver setup but not as good for track and not as engaging. My buddy has a 08 M3 coupe with a 6spd manual and it's a hoot.
Have you set up your M mode to have more aggressive transmission, steering and suspension settings? The DCT in M mode with the most aggressive shift modes shifts up really quick and pushes you back in your seat also the rev matching blips are pretty smooth.
Here's some video in the 6spd M3 from autocross, it's a lot of fun to slide around.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3t0OnnX4PGw
Have you set up your M mode to have more aggressive transmission, steering and suspension settings? The DCT in M mode with the most aggressive shift modes shifts up really quick and pushes you back in your seat also the rev matching blips are pretty smooth.
Here's some video in the 6spd M3 from autocross, it's a lot of fun to slide around.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3t0OnnX4PGw
03-13-2014, 11:44 AM
#26
I think it's probably just the SMG that makes it boring for you. Try one with a manual and you'll probably feel differently.
I'm starting to decide that high performance envelope doesn't necessarily equal fun though. Fun is being able to drive a car near it's limits. Modern performance cars performance capabilities are too high to ever approach the limit safely on the street. I think the cliche is that "It's more fun to drive a slow car fast than it is to drive a fast car slow."
Also, I don't necessarily like what BMW has become. My first exposure to BMW was my brother's orange '71 2002 with a downdraft weber, header and some other minor work. It was a great little car. The current M3 weighs a little more than my 2001 F-150 did (no joke, look it up) and is very complex. You just can't own them outside of warranty if you don't want to be paying $1,000 repair bills on a semi monthly basis. We just sold my wife's BMW 530 with 84,000 miles because we were tired of repairing it. We replaced it with a newer (non BMW) car under warranty. The new car is German also so in 5 years we'll probably paying expensive repairs again.
I'm starting to decide that high performance envelope doesn't necessarily equal fun though. Fun is being able to drive a car near it's limits. Modern performance cars performance capabilities are too high to ever approach the limit safely on the street. I think the cliche is that "It's more fun to drive a slow car fast than it is to drive a fast car slow."
Also, I don't necessarily like what BMW has become. My first exposure to BMW was my brother's orange '71 2002 with a downdraft weber, header and some other minor work. It was a great little car. The current M3 weighs a little more than my 2001 F-150 did (no joke, look it up) and is very complex. You just can't own them outside of warranty if you don't want to be paying $1,000 repair bills on a semi monthly basis. We just sold my wife's BMW 530 with 84,000 miles because we were tired of repairing it. We replaced it with a newer (non BMW) car under warranty. The new car is German also so in 5 years we'll probably paying expensive repairs again.
03-14-2014, 01:02 AM
#27
BMW makes a perfectly OK modern German luxo-Camaro. Too bad they don't make anything even remotely resembling a modern 2002tii or E30 
03-15-2014, 06:02 AM
#28
03-15-2014, 06:47 AM
#29
I think it's probably just the SMG that makes it boring for you. Try one with a manual and you'll probably feel differently.
I'm starting to decide that high performance envelope doesn't necessarily equal fun though. Fun is being able to drive a car near it's limits. Modern performance cars performance capabilities are too high to ever approach the limit safely on the street. I think the cliche is that "It's more fun to drive a slow car fast than it is to drive a fast car slow."
Also, I don't necessarily like what BMW has become. My first exposure to BMW was my brother's orange '71 2002 with a downdraft weber, header and some other minor work. It was a great little car. The current M3 weighs a little more than my 2001 F-150 did (no joke, look it up) and is very complex. You just can't own them outside of warranty if you don't want to be paying $1,000 repair bills on a semi monthly basis. We just sold my wife's BMW 530 with 84,000 miles because we were tired of repairing it. We replaced it with a newer (non BMW) car under warranty. The new car is German also so in 5 years we'll probably paying expensive repairs again.
I'm starting to decide that high performance envelope doesn't necessarily equal fun though. Fun is being able to drive a car near it's limits. Modern performance cars performance capabilities are too high to ever approach the limit safely on the street. I think the cliche is that "It's more fun to drive a slow car fast than it is to drive a fast car slow."
Also, I don't necessarily like what BMW has become. My first exposure to BMW was my brother's orange '71 2002 with a downdraft weber, header and some other minor work. It was a great little car. The current M3 weighs a little more than my 2001 F-150 did (no joke, look it up) and is very complex. You just can't own them outside of warranty if you don't want to be paying $1,000 repair bills on a semi monthly basis. We just sold my wife's BMW 530 with 84,000 miles because we were tired of repairing it. We replaced it with a newer (non BMW) car under warranty. The new car is German also so in 5 years we'll probably paying expensive repairs again.
There are very few driver's marques left, and BMW is not one of them. Their cars drive you.
03-15-2014, 07:10 AM
#30
Moderator
I'm one of the crowd that believes BMW died around 2000 and Bangle. From a driver's perspective, today's cars are nice, but they aren't great, and there's a reason people hold onto their older 3s so tightly.