I also don't want to say 0-60 is un-important, but just to me I look more at the higher figures (ie. 1/4 mile or standing mile or 0-100 or 0-150) etc. where the bigger dogs run away from the nippers.

As an example (don't know if it happened to be a probelm car, but just use this as an example) MT had a new EVO X which did an OK 0-60 in 5.4 sec (probably had a rubberband launch but OK that's part of the benifit of the AWD) but then it's 0-100 time was 15 sec.

So the EVO looked OK fast (to 60) but takes another 9.6 sec to get from 60 to 100. When a M3 would be 4.4 sec to 60 and 9.8 sec to 100, so 5.4 sec to get from 60 to 100 (almost twice as quick 60 to 100 as the EVO).

I agree a lot of stop-light races are probably decided in 0-30 (or whatever). In fact I don't race but just say you want to take off with a little pep some cars are clearly better.

Also most people won't do what these tests are getting, outside of a drag strip it's unlikely we are going to do a 6000 rpm clutch drop on a GT3. I'm cheap and I would be thinking how much is this going to cost me?

So (in another way) I am using the 0-100 times to take off the 0-60 (standing start) so once the car is rolling it's easier to see max acceleration 0-100 times and subtracting the 0-60 will get me 60 to 100 times which are not as abusive to the car as the standing start.

I understand the time measured 0-100 is part of the abusive clutch drop burning clutch etc.. but I am just saying I can look at the time and get an idea of what it's like from a roll (more than I can with a 0-60 which may be mostly a factor of launch or traction).

 

I'm not a drag-racer over here but I still love knowing 0-60times.

 

I understand the thinking that 0-60 gets less important when you're "fast enough." But to say it has no gut-feel value at 6-and-under is just wrong. The S2000, properly launched, is near a 6 seconds right? But you wouldn't say it had a prayer against a 4 second vette. and your butt-dyno will tell you right away which car is more monster.

So there's not only reaction-time or traction limits going from 6 to 4 seconds, even on the street. I can see those variables coming into play, making cars street-equivalent, over about a half-second gap. Some cars are harder to launch (e.g. Terminator Mustangs, because of low RPM grunt and so-so stock tires) so it is harder to be consistent.

 

I would prefer 5-60, 40-70, 50-100 times in addition to the standing start times.

 

C&D does 'street start' 5-60 mph (from a roll). I know that's more likely for me than subjecting a car to a high rpm clutch drop.

Of course I have not driven a M3 but (I would assume) it's near a C5 Z06 which I drove just one short time which was speedy quick, I mean scary quick at times.

hard for me to figure if the M3 is near that quick (as the C5 Z06) how it happens since the Z06 weighs 400 lbs less, same HP and +100-TQ should have a large advantage.

I am going to have to dig back in my archives to see the C5 Z06 times, but I believe it's similar to the LT3 (new) C6 times.

 

Its magic Rai!! Why do you think I loove that company so much. They can make a 192hp 3500lb car feel great.

 

Personally I'd like 20- or 30-100, as that seems to be the most relevant on a track. That way you have an idea of what straightaway times could be without the launch issues of 0-anything. C&D's 5-60 is okay, but honestly how many turns are you going to be exiting at 5mph? Very few (additionally, the S2k would fare very badly in that test, and starting at 20 or 30 would be much fairer to our torque-less chariots). That said, I'd still take a "slow" Cayman S over the much faster M3.

 

absolutely... technically, the M6 has 6 acceleration gears, the 7th is an OD... same deal for the AMG 7-speeds now... the M6's 6th gear tops out at 185mph... the 6-speeds in the Porsche's also only have 5 acceleration gears... but their 5th gear is strong... 1:06:1 in a GT3...

but a shifter over a paddle joystick thingy for me ANYDAY... unless your paying me to win...

 

I'm amazed at how quick a 3.8l, n.a., 6-cyl., 355 h.p. 911 S is. How'd they do THAT? All in all, we car enthusiasts seem to obsess a bit much over numbers (and badge stereotypes, for that matter), IMO. Buy what you like best and enjoy. If you're competing on a track, well, that's a different matter, I suppose.

 

Note to self: Do not race Veyrons to 100