Thoughts on the STi
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Originally Posted by CBeyond,May 20 2005, 09:37 AM
I'm considering buying a car to meet these requirements:
1. AS FUN as my S2000
2. More storage capacity for interstate travel.
3. Ability to carry more than one passenger. (Back seats)
The STi appears to be at the top of my list, but I'm going to test drive several other cars as well. Presently I'm not considering the Evo because I prefer the appearance of the STi, and I'm very concerned about the fiscal health of Mitsubishi Motors. Enough said about that.
The main concern is #1 above. I know that a car like the STi is going to be a TOTALLY DIFFERENT experience from the S2000... but... I'm really worried that I will regret moving away from the lightweight tossability, steering precision, braking, and simply the FUN of the S2000. It's so hard to define it really, and I'm afraid I won't fully appreciate it until it's gone.
I know the STi offers many things the S2000 does not, but I don't really care much about straight line performance or quarter mile numbers. I love braking, cornering, accelerating out of a corner, lateral grip, and all the other stuff that goes with that.
STi owners: Can the STi really be AS FUN (doesn't have to be more fun) than an S2000? I wish I could phrase the question more clearly, but it sort of defies rational analysis. I don't want to make a decision to buy a more "practical" car and then regret it later. Thanks for your help!
1. AS FUN as my S2000
2. More storage capacity for interstate travel.
3. Ability to carry more than one passenger. (Back seats)
The STi appears to be at the top of my list, but I'm going to test drive several other cars as well. Presently I'm not considering the Evo because I prefer the appearance of the STi, and I'm very concerned about the fiscal health of Mitsubishi Motors. Enough said about that.
The main concern is #1 above. I know that a car like the STi is going to be a TOTALLY DIFFERENT experience from the S2000... but... I'm really worried that I will regret moving away from the lightweight tossability, steering precision, braking, and simply the FUN of the S2000. It's so hard to define it really, and I'm afraid I won't fully appreciate it until it's gone.
I know the STi offers many things the S2000 does not, but I don't really care much about straight line performance or quarter mile numbers. I love braking, cornering, accelerating out of a corner, lateral grip, and all the other stuff that goes with that.
STi owners: Can the STi really be AS FUN (doesn't have to be more fun) than an S2000? I wish I could phrase the question more clearly, but it sort of defies rational analysis. I don't want to make a decision to buy a more "practical" car and then regret it later. Thanks for your help!
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Originally Posted by neeks127,May 21 2005, 03:54 PM
don't get the 03 sti if you plan to keep it stock. i drove my friends stock 03 sti through the moutain twisties and it understeered like a damn pig. 
And even if it was an 04... I would take your understeer comment as being one of "not being able to drive" a real AWD system. There
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There was recent discussion on ImprezaWRXSTi.com regarding the AWD systems and their differences. Its under a R32 thread.
And yes, just like stated above... EVO at best is 50/50.. while STi is by default 65%R/35%F.. but can lock the diffs at 50/50...
Once you know this, I have to be honest, its amazing to see that the Evo handles so well.
About that understeer. It takes a different driving approach to drive a AWD car.. especially coming from RWD.
And yes, just like stated above... EVO at best is 50/50.. while STi is by default 65%R/35%F.. but can lock the diffs at 50/50...
Once you know this, I have to be honest, its amazing to see that the Evo handles so well.
About that understeer. It takes a different driving approach to drive a AWD car.. especially coming from RWD.
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My brother has an 05' Sti. I have driven it several times and it really did not impress me. The speed was not as expected and compared to my S2000 it drove like a boat. The turning radius was huge and the thing had severe understeer. I have heard ffrom other drivers that the EVO is much better in the twisties. you feel more connected to the road and the car does not severely understeer.
My brother put it to me in this manner: The Sti is more grown up (better interior, better daily driver, less of a drivers car). The Evo is more raw (harsher ride, quicker turn-in, less comfy interior). He used the analogy of my S2000 vs the Porsche Boxster. One is more of a raw drivers car and the other is a little more of a grown up daily driver.
My brother put it to me in this manner: The Sti is more grown up (better interior, better daily driver, less of a drivers car). The Evo is more raw (harsher ride, quicker turn-in, less comfy interior). He used the analogy of my S2000 vs the Porsche Boxster. One is more of a raw drivers car and the other is a little more of a grown up daily driver.
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Originally Posted by NECurve,May 23 2005, 09:58 PM
My brother has an 05' Sti. I have driven it several times and it really did not impress me. The speed was not as expected and compared to my S2000 it drove like a boat. The turning radius was huge and the thing had severe understeer. I have heard ffrom other drivers that the EVO is much better in the twisties. you feel more connected to the road and the car does not severely understeer.
My brother put it to me in this manner: The Sti is more grown up (better interior, better daily driver, less of a drivers car). The Evo is more raw (harsher ride, quicker turn-in, less comfy interior). He used the analogy of my S2000 vs the Porsche Boxster. One is more of a raw drivers car and the other is a little more of a grown up daily driver.
My brother put it to me in this manner: The Sti is more grown up (better interior, better daily driver, less of a drivers car). The Evo is more raw (harsher ride, quicker turn-in, less comfy interior). He used the analogy of my S2000 vs the Porsche Boxster. One is more of a raw drivers car and the other is a little more of a grown up daily driver.
a "drive" in an Sti does not make one an expert.
On the fast comment.. I
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Originally Posted by jsalicru,May 20 2005, 10:57 AM
WRX vs EVO... thats cute... open front diffs.. weak 5 speeds...
Also, you post a thread about a clutch install where 1 person posted the price and even he posted a smilie that makes it look likes he got hooked up...
I've seen more than one shop on SoCal that will look at you like you are jocking if you say $500 for a clutch install...
My friend, who is a Porsche Tech... wont do it as side work for $500.00
Also, you post a thread about a clutch install where 1 person posted the price and even he posted a smilie that makes it look likes he got hooked up...
I've seen more than one shop on SoCal that will look at you like you are jocking if you say $500 for a clutch install...
My friend, who is a Porsche Tech... wont do it as side work for $500.00
Here's a few more links on clutch installs (maybe now you can stop spredding dis-information):
install: $330
http://forums.evolutionm.net/showthread.ph...+clutch+install
install: under $400
http://forums.evolutionm.net/showthread.ph...+clutch+install
install: $400-450, and $335
http://forums.evolutionm.net/showthread.ph...+clutch+install
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[QUOTE=y2ks2k,May 23 2005, 10:16 PM] No offense dude but AWD takes a long time to learn, it took me several days at the track to get used to the Sti. I would take your comments of the 2000 Vs the Sti as pure inexperience. Any experienced driver an Sti can utilize the DCCD in a racing setup to achieve an excellent balanced handling even a bit to the overseer side.
a "drive" in an Sti does not make one an expert.
On the fast comment.. I
a "drive" in an Sti does not make one an expert.
On the fast comment.. I
