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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 07:55 AM
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I don't think they like to engineer drivetrains to handle high torque engines. It costs money to reinforce chassis, driveshaft, axles, differentials, and transmissions. They had trouble with early V6 automatics. I don't see why they would repeat the same mistakes. Honda builds reliable cars but one thing I would never call them is overengineered.
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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 10:40 AM
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We (my family) get 18 mpg regularly in our 2005 Ford Explorer driving highway and city combined.
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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by ruexp67' date='Jan 4 2009, 11:55 PM
What about the NSX or even the S2000? They both have unique drivelines. Why not, especially in the NSX with a V6, give it more torque?

and o yeah InterHat has it right on the money.
Maybe you dont understand the S2k or the NSX that well. For its time the NSX held it own against cars with more tq and hp b.c of its amazing handling. Obv. Honda's goal wasnt tq when it released the s2k or NSX.
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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 10:45 AM
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And the ridgeline and all other honda suvs get usually decently more mpgs than equivalent trucks from ford/gm. My family's Navigator gets like 10 mpg.

I think this thread is more about vette owners wondering why honda can put an LS type motor in an s2k. and your right the LS motors are gr8. They get gr8 mileage on the highway. But im sorry i DDed a 05 c6 for a month and i got about 12 mpgs in 50 city 50 high way driving. Shit in my SCed S i abuse it around the city (100% City driving) and my lowest tank has been 18 mpg. Even on the highway i gete around 24. My best tank on the s2000 was pre-boost at 35 mpg going 65 constantly on the highway
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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 06:07 PM
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[quote name='Chris S' date='Jan 5 2009, 05:24 AM'] I've never seen more than 17.xx mpg in the Ridgeline.
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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 06:19 PM
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Yes, I knew that gas mileage wasn't great before I bought it, but I love it nonetheless. Doesn't help that my highway miles usually involve hauling a dirt bike - not good for aerodynamics.
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 02:57 AM
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[quote name='QUIKAG' date='Jan 4 2009, 05:14 PM'] Has Honda ever made a street engine with more than 300ft/lbs of torque?
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 06:34 AM
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Just FTR, in my Ridgeline, when I owned it, I averaged right at 20 MPG the entire time I owned it. I drove it very modestly and cruised at 70-75MPH on the highway.
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by b00stn' date='Jan 5 2009, 12:18 AM
Why is Ferrari afraid to make more fuel efficient vehicles?

Why is GM afraid to make smaller vehicles?

Why is Rolls Royce afraid to make less luxurious vehicles?

Why can't you just accept a car company for what it is and take their car building philosophy along with it? Honda will never make big horsepower/torque engines. Never. Just accept it.
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 08:20 AM
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I'm fairly certain the some countries tax a vehicle based on engine displacement. Honda minimizes these taxes by using small displacement engine. Small displacement = low torque.
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