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Old Oct 26, 2015 | 08:15 AM
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Nicely summarised, Chilled!
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Old Oct 26, 2015 | 09:36 AM
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Sniffpetrol nails it:

http://sniffpetrol.com/2015/10/14/th.../#.Vi5kZdZ3bVo
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Old Oct 26, 2015 | 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by chilled
There is a point about fun with the old machines.

But the inevitable required overtakes are very difficult without the modern power delivery.

Every single car ever made is a compromise in some form or other. You just choose the compromise that best suits you.

I'm not a spanner monkey, I have no garage or room for one, and I do quite a few miles and dedicate a lot of my life to non-car things. So I need something that is reliable as well as suiting my own personal driving needs. When I'm older and have more free time I will go down the mulitple car route. The M2 I am pretty sure will be a very good car. And will suit some people fantastically.

And it will also suit some image obsessed wankers too. But that's life.
Well put and mirrors my position with the exception I do have a garage and am happy to tinker hence I have a Mk1 MX-5. As such I can also see where Gad is coming from. Albeit I know the MX-5 is a car he has in the past said he is not interested in yet for me it offers low speed engagement and fun in spades. The point about compromises is key, I am lucky I can have two cars to cover more of the bases (and her indoors a CR-V to do the load lugging chores).

I can't help but feel in the not too far distant future we will wish cars like the M2 were still being produced.
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Old Oct 26, 2015 | 12:22 PM
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i think we're all erring to some common ground

the most engaging, fun at any speed, car I have driven was a 140bhp Caterham. I didn't get out of 2nd gear and drove sideways around cones all day and when I got back into the M I was dumbfounded at how numb it felt

but could I live with a caterham? yes, I probably could.. and when the lad is old enough feck it

2 x 2 seaters.. my missus will love me. When I trade her Nissan for a GL maybe
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Old Oct 26, 2015 | 12:58 PM
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It's not just here; even on Bellendheads etc, there've been similar discussions recently.
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Old Oct 26, 2015 | 11:17 PM
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Whilst I agree overtakes might be tricky (perhaps shouldn't even be considered) in a Morris Ital, most older cars manage the job perfectly well. Driving enthusiasts, if they have a penchant for the Ital and its ilk, will tow a (small) caravan or tootle to shows, but those more typified here might drive the aforementioned Mk1 GTi and its peers, all of which are perfectly capable of making progress in modern conditions. With the exception of my Vitesse tootler, my slowest car is a 1997 323i with 170bhp and that car is perfectly capable in traffic or anywhere else. A twelve year old Boxster S will destroy (coz people seem to like that word) a new 320D anywhere, as well as being infinitely more desirable, appreciating in value and only costing you £8K.
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Old Oct 26, 2015 | 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by gaddafi
A twelve year old Boxster S will destroy (coz people seem to like that word) a new 320D anywhere,
It won't on mpg or "torque"
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Old Oct 27, 2015 | 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by lovegroova
It won't on mpg or "torque"
Or on carrying more than 1 passenger.
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Old Oct 27, 2015 | 12:22 AM
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Or comfort.

I know what car I'd rather be in if I had to commute in one, it won't be the rattly old Boxter!


Admittedly it won't be a 320D either but hey
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Old Oct 27, 2015 | 12:50 AM
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I guess if you want everyone to think you're a sales rep or estate agent, and that you live in a new estate home, a TDi BMW, Merc or Audi is unbeatable.
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