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Old May 26, 2011 | 06:23 AM
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Ultimately, that's exactly the problem! Porsche has all the known-quantity of an established, mass-market company. That's convenient.

Lotus still has that lingering shed-producer thing.

The typical buyer probably doesn't want to stand apart from the herd, either.
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Old May 26, 2011 | 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Nick Graves
Ultimately, that's exactly the problem! Porsche has all the known-quantity of an established, mass-market company. That's convenient.

Lotus still has that lingering shed-producer thing.

The typical buyer probably doesn't want to stand apart from the herd, either.
I agree with that but would suggest that the Cayman S is a better car for less money and not exactly common either
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Old May 26, 2011 | 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by gaddafi
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Ultimately, that's exactly the problem! Porsche has all the known-quantity of an established, mass-market company. That's convenient.

Lotus still has that lingering shed-producer thing.

The typical buyer probably doesn't want to stand apart from the herd, either.
I agree with that but would suggest that the Cayman S is a better car for less money and not exactly common either
I really meant Porsches are built the same as all the other mass-produced cars; pressed steel, moulded plastic, bespoke bits, full dealer facilities etc etc. Even if they are a bit common, as a result! They're not ten-a-penny like the former German prestige marques have become.

I'd need to drive them back-to-back, but suspect you're right. I personally prefer the Evora to the 911 (partly because I like the less stuffy Lotus thang) which in some ways is its closest rival, but if you don't need the seats, the Cayman S makes the 911 look pretty stupid. Therefore by derivation, probably the Evora too.
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Old May 28, 2011 | 02:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Nick Graves
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I think the colour has a lot to do with it.

See one regularly around these parts and I have to say that the colour does it no favours whatsoever, it's a kind of beige/taupe affair.

This is a car that I really like and hope to have one in a year or two (I nearly bought one when I got the Elise), but in the colour I mention it was really rank.
One of the more detestable recent trends is the return of Jewish Racing Beige. Never a good look.
I prefer Mercedes hearing aid beige myself
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Old May 28, 2011 | 02:12 AM
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M-Bs ought to be in that 1970s green, with a matching interior. Or pale orange.With that Maze Prison Brown interior they used to do. No-one does tasteless colours quite as good as M-B.
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Old May 28, 2011 | 02:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Nick Graves
M-Bs ought to be in that 1970s green, with a matching interior. Or pale orange.With that Maze Prison Brown interior they used to do. No-one does tasteless colours quite as good as M-B.
I had a ghastly turd brown W123 230CE

I had a silver one at the same time

The silver always looked better

Colour's a huge factor in a car's attraction

As in many things I suppose
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Old May 28, 2011 | 03:30 AM
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Indeed.

There was something very contradictory about the 1960's Hillman Hunter-square W123 trying desperately to be a trendy hep cat in Knallorange. Mainly because the C2 Audi 100 actually worked in those colour schemes and looked very good.

But now that every car is German & Depressionssilber or Jammergrau by law, I miss those days.
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Old Jun 21, 2011 | 06:09 AM
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I thought this review seems quite fair:

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By avoiding the UK press, it's likely to avoid bias; the US was far more open-minded abou the NSX than that of the UK. for example.
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Old Aug 24, 2011 | 10:54 PM
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Had a really great drive through the Alps last week in the Evora - Annecy to Antibes via the "grande route des alpes" - 10 mountain passes in around 7 hours. Awesome roads and though a little busy in places fantastic fun. The Evora was fantastic on mountain roads, handling, acceleration and braking so good - having done a similar route in reverse in the S a few years back (no, the route not the car going backwards )

Will try and post some pics. Get away from badge snobbery etc there can be little to outpeform the Evora on these roads at the price - perhaps another Lotus.
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Old Aug 25, 2011 | 03:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Nick Graves
I really meant Porsches are built the same as all the other mass-produced cars; pressed steel, moulded plastic, bespoke bits, full dealer facilities etc etc. Even if they are a bit common, as a result! They're not ten-a-penny like the former German prestige marques have become.
Cayman(s) are rarer than S2000's (by about 1200 in No.) and we consiuder the S2000 a pretty uncommon sight!

Like most competent cars nowadays, its often something as simple as do you like the looks or not that will determine which one you go for (not the basic run around car).
So many cars although they may have different price ranges have very similar capabilities. Looks and price will ultimately play the major decisions.
For my part I do not like the looks of the Evora. Cannot fault Lotus for trying new stuff and improving their brand.

Similar reason that I do not like most Ferraris. Do like the California shape though.
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