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Old Oct 10, 2013 | 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by WinFreak
http://jalopnik.com/...nolo-1442585020

Maybe goldenballs has had a bit of help...
That would make a lot of sense
Old Oct 11, 2013 | 01:11 AM
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Originally Posted by PhilipGB
Nothing like the force applied downwards through aero which is a relatively linear force.
Well, exponential, not linear.

I suspect the FIA will give in on the issue and raise the weight limit. Taller drivers will always be at a slight disadvantage, as they are now, but it's not reasonable that the likes of Hulkenburg and Button (who are skinny and über-fit) could be excluded from the sport for being too lardy.
Old Oct 11, 2013 | 01:18 AM
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Originally Posted by WinFreak
http://jalopnik.com/red-bull-may-hav...olo-1442585020

Maybe goldenballs has had a bit of help...
Accusations of secret traction control? It's 1994 all over again.

It would be ironic if KERS were to be Red Bull's secret weapon, what with all the problems it's caused them. Of course it's cobblers: winning by 32 seconds is not that amazing, especially when second place Rosberg was holding everybody else up and had a problem with his front wing. And where was their big advantage in Korea?
Old Oct 11, 2013 | 02:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Dembo
Originally Posted by WinFreak' timestamp='1381425866' post='22820959
http://jalopnik.com/red-bull-may-hav...olo-1442585020

Maybe goldenballs has had a bit of help...
Accusations of secret traction control? It's 1994 all over again.

It would be ironic if KERS were to be Red Bull's secret weapon, what with all the problems it's caused them. Of course it's cobblers: winning by 32 seconds is not that amazing, especially when second place Rosberg was holding everybody else up and had a problem with his front wing. And where was their big advantage in Korea?
I just do not believe that the little sh1t fettle is that much faster than everyone else, cheating would explain a lot.
Old Oct 11, 2013 | 02:33 AM
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Originally Posted by earl's_f20c
I just do not believe that the little sh1t fettle is that much faster than everyone else, cheating would explain a lot.
Nobody wanted to believe Michael Schumacher was that fast back then, so had to be cheating. Seven world championships later, and even if you don't like him you'd have to admit Schumacher probably was quite good.

Red Bull have more downforce than everybody else, so more grip than everybody else. That's why the car turns in so well, and why Vettel can be on the power earlier than the others.
Old Oct 11, 2013 | 02:34 AM
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Originally Posted by earl's_f20c
Originally Posted by Dembo' timestamp='1381483083' post='22822242
[quote name='WinFreak' timestamp='1381425866' post='22820959']
http://jalopnik.com/red-bull-may-hav...olo-1442585020

Maybe goldenballs has had a bit of help...
Accusations of secret traction control? It's 1994 all over again.

It would be ironic if KERS were to be Red Bull's secret weapon, what with all the problems it's caused them. Of course it's cobblers: winning by 32 seconds is not that amazing, especially when second place Rosberg was holding everybody else up and had a problem with his front wing. And where was their big advantage in Korea?
I just do not believe that the little sh1t fettle is that much faster than everyone else, cheating would explain a lot.
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I have not seen anything to suggest cheating,in fact quite the opposite.
If indeed they do have traction control, you can be sure that it will be within existing regulations.
As for having a go at Vettel for winning races, what do you expect him to do? He can only drive the car that he is given, not his fault that RB are streets ahead of the others.
Old Oct 11, 2013 | 04:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Dembo
Originally Posted by PhilipGB' timestamp='1381391708' post='22820267
Nothing like the force applied downwards through aero which is a relatively linear force.
Well, exponential, not linear.
Linear as in one single direction downwards not a linear level of force sorry, though yes it's also an exponential force that increases with speed.

And it's only cheating if it's against the wording of the rules, not the spirit.

In 2009 Red Bull missed a trick with the double diffuser because they interpreted the rules to be that it wouldn't be allowed. They protested it and once the rule was clarified adapted their car and nearly won.

If they'd been on the ball he'd already have 4 championships, you can't afford to not be causing controversy in the interpretation of the rules. If you're not breaking something you're not quick enough.
Old Oct 11, 2013 | 05:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Dembo
Originally Posted by earl's_f20c' timestamp='1381486488' post='22822271
I just do not believe that the little sh1t fettle is that much faster than everyone else, cheating would explain a lot.
Nobody wanted to believe Michael Schumacher was that fast back then, so had to be cheating. Seven world championships later, and even if you don't like him you'd have to admit Schumacher probably was quite good.

Red Bull have more downforce than everybody else, so more grip than everybody else. That's why the car turns in so well, and why Vettel can be on the power earlier than the others.
Scumacher? he's another Krout cheat!

Come on jon where are you?
Old Oct 11, 2013 | 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by earl's_f20c
Originally Posted by Dembo' timestamp='1381487590' post='22822282
[quote name='earl's_f20c' timestamp='1381486488' post='22822271']
I just do not believe that the little sh1t fettle is that much faster than everyone else, cheating would explain a lot.
Nobody wanted to believe Michael Schumacher was that fast back then, so had to be cheating. Seven world championships later, and even if you don't like him you'd have to admit Schumacher probably was quite good.

Red Bull have more downforce than everybody else, so more grip than everybody else. That's why the car turns in so well, and why Vettel can be on the power earlier than the others.
Scumacher? he's another Krout cheat!

Come on jon where are you?
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Old Oct 11, 2013 | 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by earl's_f20c
Originally Posted by Dembo' timestamp='1381487590' post='22822282
[quote name='earl's_f20c' timestamp='1381486488' post='22822271']
I just do not believe that the little sh1t fettle is that much faster than everyone else, cheating would explain a lot.
Nobody wanted to believe Michael Schumacher was that fast back then, so had to be cheating. Seven world championships later, and even if you don't like him you'd have to admit Schumacher probably was quite good.

Red Bull have more downforce than everybody else, so more grip than everybody else. That's why the car turns in so well, and why Vettel can be on the power earlier than the others.
Scumacher? he's another Krout cheat!

Come on jon where are you?
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