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Old Sep 1, 2010 | 01:42 AM
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Originally Posted by lovegroova,Sep 1 2010, 09:20 AM
Would motor dealer registration be required to do this, as multiple cars are being sold? Form VTL301 etc?
no

not least because no cars have been sold

I've often had up to 15 cars in my ownership at any one time over the last twenty years

you see collections far grander than mine being disposed of and it's not trading

it would be different if you were turning over a car every few weeks
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Old Sep 1, 2010 | 01:46 AM
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Originally Posted by GREGSTERWIZ,Sep 1 2010, 10:39 AM


but one thing i am struggling to understand is the prices of classic rally cars, escorts in particular

they are built with better mechanicals, i understand that

they are faster, i understand that

they are rarer, i understand that

if the car has a provenance i understand that

if you want to rally there are better, more modern equivalents

these cars are a pig to live with (i know, i owned one)

they just don't drive well on the road

and prices are stratospheric (for a well built car) at the moment

Fun factor?

You could get an Evo or Impreza and go very quickly, or you could tootle agound (comparatively) in an old Escort, Sunbeam or Chavette grinning like a muppett because of the fun factor. Also, how do they compare with more modern stuff when it comes to running and competition costs?
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Old Sep 1, 2010 | 01:49 AM
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Originally Posted by gaddafi,Sep 1 2010, 10:42 AM
no

not least because no cars have been sold

I've often had up to 15 cars in my ownership at any one time over the last twenty years

you see collections far grander than mine being disposed of and it's not trading

it would be different if you were turning over a car every few weeks
Cool, thanks. I have some land/space that might be used for this sort of thing.
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Old Sep 1, 2010 | 01:54 AM
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Originally Posted by PaulF,Sep 1 2010, 09:46 AM
Fun factor?

You could get an Evo or Impreza and go very quickly, or you could tootle agound (comparatively) in an old Escort, Sunbeam or Chavette grinning like a muppett because of the fun factor. Also, how do they compare with more modern stuff when it comes to running and competition costs?
no question they are fun in the right environment

ie; on a rally stage or track

and older stuff can be just as quick as modern cars

the problems arise when trying to source rare parts

and if you intend driving to and from events, think again

my point is that you will pay at least double (and probably treble) for a good rally prepared escort compared to a standard road car

and the joys of ownership are limited




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Old Sep 1, 2010 | 01:54 AM
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Originally Posted by lovegroova,Sep 1 2010, 09:49 AM
Cool, thanks. I have some land/space that might be used for this sort of thing.
all I can say is that the land/space must be dry

nothing destroys a car quicker than being left unused, outside in all weathers

inside in a damp garage is almost as bad

you've seen what happens to the discs on a car in a week

imagine the effect of two years - EVERYTHING goes to pot
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Old Sep 1, 2010 | 01:58 AM
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I'll bear that in mind. I'll probably chicken out (as usual) as it's a bit too risky, but it's worth a think.
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Old Sep 1, 2010 | 02:01 AM
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Audi A2 is without doubt a future classic.
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Old Sep 1, 2010 | 02:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Heinz '57,Sep 1 2010, 10:01 AM
Audi A2 is without doubt a future classic.
maybe

but in a very different way to other classic cars

to be a true classic, imo, the car needs to be desirable (when it was new and now), have some kind of pedigree (marque related) be near to the top of the model range and have had limited availability when it was new

the A2 fails on these counts but did move thing forward
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Old Sep 1, 2010 | 02:23 AM
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it'll be a classic in the same way as an ordinary early Mini

not ultra desirable (like an early Cooper)

not cutesy enough like a Fiat 500 (proper one)

and therefore never mega valuable
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Old Sep 1, 2010 | 02:24 AM
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Originally Posted by GREGSTERWIZ,Sep 1 2010, 11:15 AM
maybe

but in a very different way to other classic cars

to be a true classic, imo, the car needs to be desirable (when it was new and now), have some kind of pedigree (marque related) be near to the top of the model range and have had limited availability when it was new

the A2 fails on these counts but did move thing forward
As I see it a classic needs to have a special "something" regardless of desireability when new (or now).
How else would you explain the stratospheric prices of Bubble cars?
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