Future classics
Originally Posted by lovegroova,Sep 1 2010, 09:20 AM
Would motor dealer registration be required to do this, as multiple cars are being sold? Form VTL301 etc?
not least because no cars have been sold
I've often had up to 15 cars in my ownership at any one time over the last twenty years
you see collections far grander than mine being disposed of and it's not trading
it would be different if you were turning over a car every few weeks
Originally Posted by GREGSTERWIZ,Sep 1 2010, 10:39 AM
but one thing i am struggling to understand is the prices of classic rally cars, escorts in particular
they are built with better mechanicals, i understand that
they are faster, i understand that
they are rarer, i understand that
if the car has a provenance i understand that
if you want to rally there are better, more modern equivalents
these cars are a pig to live with (i know, i owned one)
they just don't drive well on the road
and prices are stratospheric (for a well built car) at the moment

You could get an Evo or Impreza and go very quickly, or you could tootle agound (comparatively) in an old Escort, Sunbeam or Chavette grinning like a muppett because of the fun factor. Also, how do they compare with more modern stuff when it comes to running and competition costs?
Originally Posted by gaddafi,Sep 1 2010, 10:42 AM
no
not least because no cars have been sold
I've often had up to 15 cars in my ownership at any one time over the last twenty years
you see collections far grander than mine being disposed of and it's not trading
it would be different if you were turning over a car every few weeks
not least because no cars have been sold
I've often had up to 15 cars in my ownership at any one time over the last twenty years
you see collections far grander than mine being disposed of and it's not trading
it would be different if you were turning over a car every few weeks
Originally Posted by PaulF,Sep 1 2010, 09:46 AM
Fun factor?
You could get an Evo or Impreza and go very quickly, or you could tootle agound (comparatively) in an old Escort, Sunbeam or Chavette grinning like a muppett because of the fun factor. Also, how do they compare with more modern stuff when it comes to running and competition costs?
You could get an Evo or Impreza and go very quickly, or you could tootle agound (comparatively) in an old Escort, Sunbeam or Chavette grinning like a muppett because of the fun factor. Also, how do they compare with more modern stuff when it comes to running and competition costs?
ie; on a rally stage or track
and older stuff can be just as quick as modern cars
the problems arise when trying to source rare parts
and if you intend driving to and from events, think again
my point is that you will pay at least double (and probably treble) for a good rally prepared escort compared to a standard road car
and the joys of ownership are limited
Originally Posted by lovegroova,Sep 1 2010, 09:49 AM
Cool, thanks. I have some land/space that might be used for this sort of thing.
nothing destroys a car quicker than being left unused, outside in all weathers
inside in a damp garage is almost as bad
you've seen what happens to the discs on a car in a week
imagine the effect of two years - EVERYTHING goes to pot
Originally Posted by Heinz '57,Sep 1 2010, 10:01 AM
Audi A2 is without doubt a future classic.
but in a very different way to other classic cars
to be a true classic, imo, the car needs to be desirable (when it was new and now), have some kind of pedigree (marque related) be near to the top of the model range and have had limited availability when it was new
the A2 fails on these counts but did move thing forward
it'll be a classic in the same way as an ordinary early Mini
not ultra desirable (like an early Cooper)
not cutesy enough like a Fiat 500 (proper one)
and therefore never mega valuable
not ultra desirable (like an early Cooper)
not cutesy enough like a Fiat 500 (proper one)
and therefore never mega valuable
Originally Posted by GREGSTERWIZ,Sep 1 2010, 11:15 AM
maybe
but in a very different way to other classic cars
to be a true classic, imo, the car needs to be desirable (when it was new and now), have some kind of pedigree (marque related) be near to the top of the model range and have had limited availability when it was new
the A2 fails on these counts but did move thing forward
but in a very different way to other classic cars
to be a true classic, imo, the car needs to be desirable (when it was new and now), have some kind of pedigree (marque related) be near to the top of the model range and have had limited availability when it was new
the A2 fails on these counts but did move thing forward

How else would you explain the stratospheric prices of Bubble cars?






