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Old Jul 25, 2012 | 11:40 PM
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Golf R from £32k.
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Old Jul 26, 2012 | 04:32 AM
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I just ticked all the options ..... £42,781 for a Golf.

By comparison the Seat LEON R is £26,000 and with everything I can add .... £29,000

I think the SEAT is 10 grand more than it's really worth and the Golf ..... that's just laughable lunacy!!!!
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Old Jul 26, 2012 | 07:29 AM
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And it will still be worth 40% of jack in three years'.
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Old Jul 26, 2012 | 09:08 AM
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Maybe we'd be better off buying Jack instead?
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Old Jul 26, 2012 | 10:48 AM
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me sh it disappeared! Bit like a phantom crap.

Bizarre.
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Old Jul 26, 2012 | 04:01 PM
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I can see these having their own race series soon, and being rather good fun.
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Old Jul 27, 2012 | 12:21 AM
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I can see these having their own race series soon, and being rather good fun.
I'm surprised Toyota didn't launch them with a series.

As for the RX8 comparison - somehow I doubt they'll be that bad. The RX8 had it's problems built in with the rotary engine, high fuel consumption and problems with rotor wear if the owner didn't stick to a particular operating and maintenance routine - a recipe for disaster with today's average driver who assumes nothing will need looking at until the first MOT is due.
Of course they'll depreciate, but if there are no maintenance gremlins I doubt they'll be any worse than average.
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Old Jul 27, 2012 | 01:37 AM
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The difference between a 'good' and 'bad' depreciator is usually around 5-10%-age points these days and is biased by the stupid expensive options people invariably stick on german rubbish. It's barely significant. The RX-8 was a spectacular secondhand buy, because the depreciation over-factored for the fuel consumption as a lot of company car boo-hooers got stung in the early days and chopped them in for a German Cortina.

It was funny how people used to spout drivel about the Boxster over the S2000, blindly ignoring that in hard cash, you forked out far more & so lost more, despite the 986 holding its value better on paper!

The thing that's always confused me is that since 1. it's a Toyota and 2. they come with a 5 year warranty, why do people still chop them in after three years and then bleat about it? In the 1960s & 70s, a 5YO car was totally f ucked and had holes in it. Not any more.
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Old Jul 27, 2012 | 05:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Nick Graves
The thing that's always confused me is that since 1. it's a Toyota and 2. they come with a 5 year warranty, why do people still chop them in after three years and then bleat about it? In the 1960s & 70s, a 5YO car was totally f ucked and had holes in it. Not any more.
a) People still have the notion that once it needs an MOT it must be about to cost them a fortune, not helped by...
b) Manufacturers now making cars from 'modules', not parts so that a blown bulb is now a 'lighting module' change at £300 from a dealer - meaning that the fear of a) is magnified by stories of £1000+ bills for simple repairs, with major ones making the car economically unviable.
c) Vanity
d) Keeping up with the Joneses.
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Old Jul 27, 2012 | 06:05 AM
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Probably in reverse order. Where would we be without purchase justification? Oh, that's right, not globally bankrupt.

Admittedly, what one does with modern rubbish once it's OUT of the five-year warranty period is another matter...

Again, probably helps explain the increasingly heavy depreciation now that a three-year warranty is inadequate.
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