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Old Jul 28, 2012 | 12:28 PM
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i remember back in 98 when i worked in west London someone nearby had an NSX.. sounded bloody lovely.

a special car, i wonder if Honda will really get anywhere close to that again. probably not
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Old Jul 29, 2012 | 12:50 AM
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Originally Posted by MarkB
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I can see these having their own race series soon, and being rather good fun.
I'm surprised Toyota didn't launch them with a series.

As for the RX8 comparison - somehow I doubt they'll be that bad. The RX8 had it's problems built in with the rotary engine, high fuel consumption and problems with rotor wear if the owner didn't stick to a particular operating and maintenance routine - a recipe for disaster with today's average driver who assumes nothing will need looking at until the first MOT is due.
Of course they'll depreciate, but if there are no maintenance gremlins I doubt they'll be any worse than average.
we will see

when the RX8 was launched, people who said the Wankel was prone to fail were derided - we were told it would be different in this car

plenty of cars are fecked despite sticking to the service schedule via a main dealer and the oil consumption was simply silly for a modern everyday car

the high fuel consumption was obvious from day one and in tests but ignored/discounted

I doubt any of the above will apply to the Toybaru

I was just making the point that extravagant and laughable claims were made about the RX8 and its future value when coupled with hype about the driving experience

I think the depreciation will be no better than any other similar car but it will probably be worse - market manipulation notwithstanding

after that, they have very high chav potential

nearly new and move on after a few months is the way to minimise the loss, otherwise bank on losing at least £15K in three years
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Old Aug 11, 2012 | 12:39 PM
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I took a glimpse at a gt86 through a showroom window yesterday, first time seeing it in real life made a very good impression on me
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Old Aug 11, 2012 | 12:40 PM
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Oh except the wheels are like space savers!
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Old Aug 12, 2012 | 03:13 AM
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Originally Posted by razzele
Oh except the wheels are like space savers!
which are probably all it needs

but, self included, we've been corrupted by 'looks' over function in the last decade or so
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Old Aug 12, 2012 | 03:39 AM
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still not seen one in the flesh.

Tyres make me laugh, loads of Nicks' (tm) struggle buggies 3 series on £250 per corner rubber and thats a broader theme of late. A 370z has stupidly wide rears but isnt exactly a rocket ship. I expect this over rubbering is sponsored by mr michelin and his buds.
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Old Aug 12, 2012 | 03:59 AM
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I've seen a few now, I particularly liked one yesterday which was black, very mean and sleek.
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Old Aug 12, 2012 | 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Nottm_S2
still not seen one in the flesh.

Tyres make me laugh, loads of Nicks' (tm) struggle buggies 3 series on £250 per corner rubber and thats a broader theme of late. A 370z has stupidly wide rears but isnt exactly a rocket ship. I expect this over rubbering is sponsored by mr michelin and his buds.
Struggle Buggy was a 60s/70s hippie term for a POS so I cannot fairly claim credit. Don't Bogart that joint, man..

Tyres; most people cannot drive, thus need excessive grip and think the hellatwat look is worth something because the marketeers tell them it is.

I really like the idea one may learn the 86 on squealy little Prius tyres & then replace them with AD08s or whatever. It helps avoid that yo VTEC Bang!! thing of S2000 fame...

One of the US mags track-tested it on grippier tyres & then on 18s. Predictably, the grippier provided the best compromise between faster lap times & not ruining the steering feel.
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Old Aug 17, 2012 | 03:28 AM
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TTIUWP













Uzu means an eddy, or vortex or a spiral.

Tyres are great fun stupid wobbly things - '70s US car chase sounds with only 4,000 rpm to play with. It's like a MK1 Escort/Crapi or something. It ain't big & it ain't clever...
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Old Aug 17, 2012 | 03:34 AM
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Like the 5 o clock view

Great and for this, put ssangyong or whatever to shame

Have you bought one?
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