The tow bar is lockable Rog, believe the rack also locks but I guess you could chuck it in the car.

At the place we go there is anpr for the car park and everyone leaves them on.

Some of these folk have multi £k bikes which I don't really get, mine is utter pig iron , much harder work! might change it as I don't like the suspension much but we will see.. needs to get use first

 

I see things have not improved since this thread started!

Does anything remotely controversial or adventurous ever happen any more?

I see a forum name change coming on.

But o/t - what do they do at service intervals with these things?

 

Annual but there ain't much to do so it's cheap. Has brake fluid, pads that don't work hard. Inherently simple.

As white goods trans they are unbelievably efficient and easy and pleasant to drive. In summer weather we had lately it gets 200mpge on a std tariff, gearless, can't stall or bunny hop, parks itself
On our jaunt to M&S I got a free charge while we were there so fuel costs negative. Lots of retail places offer this now so if you are a retail whore free fuel I guess (I am not). Painless if you have a decent smart phone though you need a host of apps I believe, I could envisage shit signal being an issue for app download
I like it. Its no swap for an S2000 but it makes a mockery of her Qashqai

 

I suppose the only consumables are brakes and tyres? Battery eventually obviously. Fluids limited to brake fluid and screenwash? Does the motor ever wear out?

 

There is trans fluid apparently but broadly
​​​​I think of my petrol mower Vs electric
no plugs, valves, oil and filter, diff.. all the bits your dealer would rob you for

Example service below.. mostly inspect. I could very well be wrong but my expectation is more £ to buy but then super cheap to own. Battery has 8yr warranty, motor 5. Five year service plan on mine, after that I might let them look after it till the last bit of warranty.

I don't see the thrill side being replaced by stuff like this (an idiot or partially sighted millionaire buys a Taycan) but as a school run device it is very accomplished (damning with faint praise I realise).. runs to the woods to walk the dog, bikes on the back, covers the stuff an SUV does for others but it's also nice to drive. Which still matters to me. The low cog makes it handle like a go kart but ride is good which is rare in BEVs

 

See... You miserable old buggers are still fretting over range

Something I've realised with lockdown, covid, different life now WFH,... Most of the miles in either car we have (R & S) are fun miles. Just over 1k miles in the S in 10 months.
I want to hear more about "fun factor" in this little Honda you both have

 

he is marvelling about economy rather than fretting i think
1p per kw means c600kw for about the price of a (£6) gallon.. each kw gets you 4+ miles ish so you can do the maths from there

i did a similar thing to your R in an E92 M3. it was needlessley expensive, never really used, unfulfilling when it was, expensive to maintain (german reliability is an utter myth), £500 tax, 10k would cost £3k+ in fuel etc, rear tyres were expensive and most of its life it trundled about at tickover

this thing has (all its) area under the curve, the 'skateboard' plank Nick refers to keeps cog low, good suspension with a brilliantly judged ride to me and a shitload of safety stuff a bloke with young kids appreciates. i never liked the M3 and i like this but that's all subjective i suppose

i have the S for if the mood takes me, way more of a rush even in NA form than that BM (and this e)

lockdown is done. Normal life returns. We have done 1k in the few months so far and most of that has been no school runs. Mileage will ramp from here and this time next year it'll be on 13k i reckon

 

Nah you misjudge me as Jason says. He is part Scottish so uber tight and doesn't see the point in investing in a charger. But he does have this metric of miles per gallon equiv. While he is right about the ROI (£600 installed even after the Govt grant) I can take advantage of the wholesale market tracker tariff (Agile from Octopus energy) to charge when price is low. My 'mpge' is over 300

Unlike Jason I had some fun out of M3s and avoided expensive engine flaws (just) but enjoyed the Jeckl and Hyde nature of the DCT version. Had a manual tin top first but disliked the gearbox. Rock steady in the downpours on motorways unlike brown trousers in an S. Sold him my bling (for me too large) set of wheels. Traded the last one in when we decided to exchange staying in hotels for taking it with us on wheels, a motorhome. Next to no depreciation thanks to the boom in staycations if/when I sell.

Fun factor?

My latest was to show off turn round on my bro in law's narrow drive, 3 point turn but the 'e' made it possible. He has to back his cars up the drive.

Bloke walking his greyhound in IKEA car park wandered over likened it to a Lamborgini. On colour I think.

 

We often justify our purchases and we shouldn't have to. I completely understand that some people care about economy and believe that their car choice may also save a bit of the planet (not saying that's your motivation). I am happy to let that pass all the time I am not berated for liking the internal combustion engine and not giving two ****s about MMGW as well as being told that their shopping trolley is as much fun as any twin turbo petrol monster. It's like those twats that drive some white goods like a BMW 320D and claim it's all you need in the real world. Well yes, it may well be all THEY need but that's only true for them. I'm sure I could buy all the furniture I need from Dunelm and Ikea but **** me, I'd rather make it out of old pallets and loft insulation.

Your Honda sounds very good for what it is. Same as an M3 is very good for what it is. The two are not comparable beyond their base purpose of transportation.

 

Agree that 100%

For the uninitiated MMGW is man made global warming.

I am slowly reading report 28 from the Global Warming Policy Foundation atm. A readable 94 pages by the late Christopher Booker entitled 'Global Warming, a case study in groupthink'. I am conducting a literary war with my eldest son. In retaliation for his birthday present of this booklet he sent me Greta Thunberg's 'No one is too small to make a difference'. I have not started it yet. Although longer than Booker's booket (106 pages) I rather like the much larger font at my age while remaining sceptical of words from the mouth of an autistic who bunked off school before GCSE. Having taught autistic children in my time I just don't believe that an autistic Swedish girl could write such good English speeches (16 in all) unaided. The booklet is made small to enable it to contain more pages and be a bona fide 'book' although I question that is the case when it is just speeches i.e. propaganda. Each page contains approx 175 words whereas the Booker booklet has 42 lines of 18 words per line on each page.

By my reckoning the shorter book - in terms of no of pages - contains 5 times more words. But boy is it hard to read

We have also exchanged proper hard back books. My gift from my son is another book on the cheap consisting of a story made up of chapters as originally read out on Radio 4 quite recently 'Losing Earth - The Decade We Could Have Stopped Climate Change'. My eye was arrested by a full page photo opposite the book's title page of one Gordon MacDonald (no relation) standing on the steps of the Capitol with his arm above his head, to illustrate where sea level would be in 2030 if his theories prove correct.

Quite apart from wondering if he really meant 6' or that the Potomac estuary waters would be lapping the Capitol steps, it was interesting to read in wiki that he opposed plate tectronics and had some other now disproved theory! Better still (and I don't think the author can have appreciated the irony of quoting him as saying exactly what Booker is pointing out, inter alia) So I am now motivated to live another 9 years and then send the book back to my son unread posing my Potomac question ...