M3 CSL
If you are an 'enthusiastic' road driver i guarantee they are poor on a STD M3, I know the CSL set up is slightly different but again if it was for track then you would definately need to upgrade.
Check out www.m3forum.net and you will see 99% of owners say the same.
Check out www.m3forum.net and you will see 99% of owners say the same.
Originally Posted by moff,Oct 27 2008, 01:24 PM
The perfect track car IMO.
I can think of any number of cars more suited to the track than a saloon weighing well over a tonne.
Originally Posted by MB,Oct 23 2008, 03:35 PM
Just watched this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhKCbS-Df7Q
I love listening to the crazy Japs. I don't know what they are saying, but you just know they are having fun
The power of the M5 6 mins is is pretty amazing - after a nice drift!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhKCbS-Df7Q
I love listening to the crazy Japs. I don't know what they are saying, but you just know they are having fun
The power of the M5 6 mins is is pretty amazing - after a nice drift!
7:46 in Tsuchiya drifting the whole back corner.The tests may be meaningless but still good entertainment. I'll lend you the english version when i see you Mark.
Originally Posted by MarkB,Oct 27 2008, 03:52 PM
You're not serious are you?
I can think of any number of cars more suited to the track than a saloon weighing well over a tonne.
I can think of any number of cars more suited to the track than a saloon weighing well over a tonne.
It's the only car I can think of for the money that I would actually enjoy driving to the track, on the track and then back home. Would be such a great car to drive to the Ring with luggage and back.
Originally Posted by Blurter,Oct 27 2008, 02:54 PM
Very good point
The same was said about my brakes. I think they are fantastic
The same was said about my brakes. I think they are fantastic

My old S3 had terrible brakes, and after about 20 minutes of fun country road driving would really suffer with fade.
The csl is without doubt a corking piece of kit but would it feel like a 3 series from the passenger seat? i like the roadster feel you get in cars like the S, the mx5 etc.. wedge yourself in like a wee fighter pilot. maybe i'm nuts?
i've never owned an uber saloon, i did look at the M3 when i bought my S but that was the previous version and it did not feel at all special despite being quick. I also drove a couple of scoobies and didn't like them either despite the very obvious pace.
i haven't bought a car in 1 month shy of 6 years
.. next thing i buy will be a bike i think
oh and i have cooked the S brakes being silly on the road but with uprated pads it's fine. track is a completely different story, i've cooked the better pads on a track (i think i actually brake too much, i'm not pretending i'm Hamilton
)
i've never owned an uber saloon, i did look at the M3 when i bought my S but that was the previous version and it did not feel at all special despite being quick. I also drove a couple of scoobies and didn't like them either despite the very obvious pace.
i haven't bought a car in 1 month shy of 6 years
.. next thing i buy will be a bike i thinkoh and i have cooked the S brakes being silly on the road but with uprated pads it's fine. track is a completely different story, i've cooked the better pads on a track (i think i actually brake too much, i'm not pretending i'm Hamilton
)
Originally Posted by moff,Oct 27 2008, 03:25 PM
I thought the Z4M had the CSL brakes which I would imagine that on the Z4M would be pretty special, especially for on the road driving?
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