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Old 08-12-2017, 01:36 AM
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Not surprising since it's all wind tunnels / mpg / safety for potential Darwin award winners.

If you want a blast, buy a caterham / morgan trike / bike and get a snoozebox for the commute in bad weather.
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I can't think of one new hatchback that I'd want to drive more than OH's EP3 which I'm allowed to drive occasionally!

Compared to only 10 or 15 years ago the choice is very very bland and depressing.
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Maybe not everyone wants excitement. Steady safe drive will do me now I am old
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Maybe not everyone wants excitement. Steady safe drive will do me now I am old
you just flogged an 8300rpm 414bhp v8 GT.. you'll get bored by a Daihatsu Dull or a Suzuki Sucks. There are still fun cars but i reckon you maybe have to go B seg

you want hassle free, value etc the Fiesta is supposedly a good call. Equally i can understand opting for 'transport'

a golf GTD is great boring transport, assuming you dont feel guilt re toxicity.
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Golf.... what a monumental lack of imagination...
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Golf.... what a monumental lack of imagination...
Go on then . As a driver of a Golf GTE which has returned ~190mpg over 15000 miles, is reasonably quick (~6.5 seconds to 60) and is an acceptably pleasant place to sit, inspire me...
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Who cares... Common as mud. If I were in the market for some shopping trolley it would probably be Italian.
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Who cares... Common as mud. If I were in the market for some shopping trolley it would probably be Italian.
anyone buying an Alfa is pretty brave

the Golf has a purpose, noone said it'd be an Exige but they can cover miles and (can) be trouble free

you picked a Yam over a Duke
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Who cares... Common as mud. If I were in the market for some shopping trolley it would probably be Italian.
Well, it was you saying Golf buyers lacked imagination so I was just looking to be put right by someone of greater creativity than I can muster.

​​​​​​Alfa? The days of them (badly) building 'characterful' and entertaining cars are long gone.

Fiat? Really?!

So where are these inspirational Italian cars you allude to, but curiously fail to identify?
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Did you see that TopGears test Alfa Guilia threw it's electrical toys out of the pram twice already? And that's just the times they reported on ...... apparently the RAC man had never seen so many faults codes thrown on one car. Doesn't bode well does it. As for FIAT, i wouldn't have bought a TIPO the first time around, the regenerated model doesn't tempt me either.

f i wanted 'different' i;d probably take a punt on a new Civic Type R .... it is at least different and by all accounts a decent ride. Failing that it'd be a Golf / GTI/GTD / GTE / R, it's a well refined formula.

Or i'd just keep the S2000 / Aygo / Motorbike combination which is even more of a lack of creativity as that's no change at all
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