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Old May 25, 2006 | 01:35 AM
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In recent days, Joy Rees hasn't been the only one in the news for committing transport-related crimes. She's a harmless, productive, valuable, tax-paying woman who's been incarcerated after a few misguided moments of madness. And at the same time as she was shown her prison mattress, the welcome mat was rolled out for violent, dangerous, international hijackers who committed heinous crimes of armed terrorism in UK airspace and on our soil as they petrified passengers on a Stansted-bound plane. Unbelievably, these guys have not been ordered to go to jail or even returned to their country of origin, after entering ours illegally. Now that's what I call a proper perversion of the course of British justice. Whatever happened to the credible Britain that used to have the world's best and most highly-respected legal system?
Sums the ridiculous situation on crime in UK up quite nicely I thought.
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Old May 25, 2006 | 01:40 AM
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...especially when one considers the very serious prison over-crowding problems.

Perhaps thay're hoping we'll all top ourselves in jail & solve 'climate change?'


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Old May 25, 2006 | 01:55 AM
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from my perspective i would still have posted the thread (if it were me in the clink i'd have done it on the library pc) if it were a bloke..

she was lying about a frickin speeding ticket ffs. the journo's love to enhance the 'loving mum' bit though but that's pretty irrelevant to me (despite the fact I mentioned it in my original post )

i'm no liberal but the punishment should fit the crime.. she's hardly a hard nosed crim is she? just another poor sod trying to evade blair's stealthy taxes like anyone of us who has a laser/radar detector etc.. he created this situation.. i just wish someone in baghdad had shot im
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Old May 25, 2006 | 01:58 AM
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The individual in question already had 9 points, continued speeding, forged signatures twice, and perverted the course of justice.

These are not attributes that seem desirable in an individual who works in a role which has such a high level of responsibility.

The entire legal system would fall apart if people were allowed to get away with perjury.
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Old May 25, 2006 | 02:00 AM
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With any luck, they'll put her in an open prison - then she can join the others who just walk out.
The CRB will mis-attribute her conviction to someone else.
Then she can get a new NI number.
Problem solved.
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Old May 25, 2006 | 02:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Chris Type R,May 25 2006, 01:58 AM
The entire legal system would fall apart if people were allowed to get away with perjury.
Hmm, government seem to get away with it quite nicely though.....
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Old May 25, 2006 | 02:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Chris Type R,May 25 2006, 09:58 AM
The individual in question already had 9 points, continued speeding, forged signatures twice, and perverted the course of justice.

These are not attributes that seem desirable in an individual who works in a role which has such a high level of responsibility.

The entire legal system would fall apart if people were allowed to get away with perjury.
how can i phrase this..

i bet there's a chance i might possibly speed a bit more than her.. i'm probably just a lot better at avoiding getting caught. i didn't buy a 240bhp car to drive around like miss daisy. probably.

to put it another way my missus has more points than me and drives a diesel vectra.. she doesn't have any 'countermeasures' though. if i drove for my job i'd have a dash full of anti blairtax gizmo's.

i agree that perjury is bad but i'd argue that lying about speeding is different to lying about fiddling with a kid or beating someone senseless..

and it's widespread in this arena (speeding) too.. the precedent has been set.
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Old May 25, 2006 | 02:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Hypersonik,May 25 2006, 11:16 AM
Hmm, government seem to get away with it quite nicely though.....
With lying or perjury ?

Two wrongs make a right ?
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Old May 25, 2006 | 02:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Nottm_S2,May 25 2006, 02:18 AM
i agree that perjury is bad but i'd argue that lying about speeding is different to lying about fiddling with a kid or beating someone senseless..

and it's widespread in this arena (speeding) too.. the precedent has been set.
Had a similar argument to this yesterday in another thread. At the end of the day, she should be saying you can put me in prison for perjury when you find the WoMD or lock up Blair. Might be a bit difficult as you'll have to fish him out of Dubbya's back pocket. Always reminds me of Animal Farm (No, not the $$$$$$ movie ) where you are left with the final rule: All animals are equal, just some are more equal than others....
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Old May 25, 2006 | 02:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Nottm_S2,May 25 2006, 11:18 AM
and it's widespread in this arena (speeding) too.. the precedent has been set.
The conviction is unrelated to the speeding offence. The conviction is for perverting the course of justice. Everything else is media hype.

But, if the individual had been honest about the speeding offence, the court would most likely have imposed a minor ban when faced with the mother / nurse information. You take your risks...
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