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Old May 25, 2006 | 02:28 AM
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the problem would be easily solved if they just sent out the pics showing the driver right at the beginning.. and then people would not even think about cheating..

the other issue is that she was probably unaware how far this would go.. since probably thought everything was related to a driving offence..and fines etc.

if they were smart about this..they would just have shown the picture and told her to own up.. or else jail....rather than pushing it to court on perverting justice etc.. it's now going to cost a lot more than the small fine they trying to collect.
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Old May 25, 2006 | 02:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Chris Type R,May 25 2006, 02:21 AM
With lying or perjury ?

Two wrongs make a right ?
Both. What we are dealing with is someone trying to get by in life. They probably got caught doing 35 in a 30 zone a couple of times, maybe something similar on a motorway or something. In 3 years/30,000 miles, its not that bad of a record. No one can be constantly looking at the speedo. I suppose you could say its a requirement, and that there is no room for error. If that would be the case, then you might as well lock us all up, especially that judge who released a murderer on bail.
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Old May 25, 2006 | 02:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Kobe,May 25 2006, 02:28 AM
if they were smart about this..
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Old May 25, 2006 | 02:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Kobe,May 25 2006, 11:28 AM
if they were smart about this..they would just have shown the picture and told her to own up.. or else jail....rather than pushing it to court on perverting justice etc.. it's now going to cost a lot more than the small fine they trying to collect.
..but putting her in prison will probably deter thousands of people from trying it on in the future so in the long term they'll be quids in. These law type people aren't as stupid as the media would have you believe.
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Old May 25, 2006 | 02:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Chris Type R,May 25 2006, 10:26 AM
The conviction is unrelated to the speeding offence. The conviction is for perverting the course of justice. Everything else is media hype.

But, if the individual had been honest about the speeding offence, the court would most likely have imposed a minor ban when faced with the mother / nurse information. You take your risks...
is lying to your missus about the fact that the present she bought you for xmas is sh1t not different to lying to your missus about the fact you boned her best mate up the azz?
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Old May 25, 2006 | 02:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Hypersonik,May 25 2006, 11:32 AM
Both. What we are dealing with is someone trying to get by in life. They probably got caught doing 35 in a 30 zone a couple of times, maybe something similar on a motorway or something. In 3 years/30,000 miles, its not that bad of a record. No one can be constantly looking at the speedo. I suppose you could say its a requirement, and that there is no room for error. If that would be the case, then you might as well lock us all up, especially that judge who released a murderer on bail.
She wasn't put away for speeding, she was put away because she lied about it.
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Old May 25, 2006 | 02:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Hypersonik,May 25 2006, 11:32 AM
Both. What we are dealing with is someone trying to get by in life. They probably got caught doing 35 in a 30 zone a couple of times, maybe something similar on a motorway or something. In 3 years/30,000 miles, its not that bad of a record. No one can be constantly looking at the speedo. I suppose you could say its a requirement, and that there is no room for error. If that would be the case, then you might as well lock us all up, especially that judge who released a murderer on bail.
You have no idea how the first nine points were achieved - so why speculate ?

The "crime" which lead up to this was travelling at almost 30% above the speed limit - again it's open to speculation how reasonable this limit is - there is no information about the road or prevailing conditions. It doesn't take much effort to keep within 10% of the limit without keeping a constant eye on the speedometer - indeed if the driver had looked at the speedo they would have seen an indicated speed HIGHER than that which they were fined for.

The person decided to stick two fingers up & make the crime a more serious one. This was individual choice - she *COULD HAVE* been honest and carried on "getting by in life".
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Old May 25, 2006 | 02:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Nottm_S2,May 25 2006, 11:36 AM
is lying to your missus about the fact that the present she bought you for xmas is sh1t not different to lying to your missus about the fact you boned her best mate up the azz?
These are not issues that I'd make a point of lying about in a court of law Indeed, I doubt that they'd be interested.
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Old May 25, 2006 | 02:43 AM
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Originally Posted by ge2,May 25 2006, 02:38 AM
She wasn't put away for speeding, she was put away because she lied about it.
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Sorry, you seemed to be dealing with this in such an inhuman black/white way I thought you might like binary better...

This is the reason of outrage, are you just being ignorant to get one over on me or something, because you aren't really doing yourself any favours!

Yes, the woman lied. SHE LIED ABOUT A SPEEDING FINE! SHE DOES NOT DESERVE TO GO TO JAIL!
It probably wont put people off either. Some people need their car for their job. If they have 9 points, they'll take that chance anyway because either way, if they get caught, its the loss of their job, probably house etc etc.

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Old May 25, 2006 | 02:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Hypersonik,May 25 2006, 11:32 AM
Both. What we are dealing with is someone trying to get by in life. They probably got caught doing 35 in a 30 zone a couple of times, maybe something similar on a motorway or something. In 3 years/30,000 miles, its not that bad of a record. No one can be constantly looking at the speedo. I suppose you could say its a requirement, and that there is no room for error. If that would be the case, then you might as well lock us all up, especially that judge who released a murderer on bail.
So what you are basically saying is that you think that anyone who commits a speed related crime should get away with it lightly because murders, rapists and the goverment get away witih it in your view.


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