Not sure I'd want to risk taking on a drug dealer.

 

Here's one that'll make you laugh. This is probably subjudice, but anyway:

Person gets door-dinged in car park. Person remonstrates. Person gets called a "f ucking chink". Police are suddenly treating it as a serious crime. Not the door-ding, the name-calling bit.

All about modern priorities, see.

 

Went to the cop shop to do my producer and was told the full process. I should expect to hear that they have approached the get in about 2 weeks from now

 

Chris,

get your own ninja justice with the perp.

I recommend the use of the following concealed weapons

http://tjic.com/?p=14000

 

It’s this sort of discussion that highlights the difference between the front line police, the CPS and the grey area in between.

Generally speaking the police, wearing blue outfits and silly hats, are there to keep the peace and help the community.
If there’s a car crash the average bobby is concerned about getting the injured to safety, checking nobody was drunk and then clearing the road to let traffic move on.
If two people are about to fight over a carpark ding his concern is to drag them apart and send them on their separate ways.
Determining the fault of the accident or claiming insurance for the carpark ding is the job of a couple of lawyers, not the job of the street cop.

In the case here the street cop isn’t able to get the address of the other car, go round there and have a few words.
It need to go through all sorts of complex paperwork, proof of crime, reliability of witness, data protection, in the case of a known criminal a check for other crimes, investigation, likelihood of prosecution and whether prosecution is in the public interest… and probably much more.

I think a lot of people (myself included) have greater expectation of the police in blue than they are actually able to give.
The police are for the most part a good bunch of people who want to help out and make the world better – the problem is the complex array of laws, paperwork and backoffice bullcrap that gets in their way.

 

That is extraordinarily true; see the absurd article heretofore.

But if 'it's a civil matter and nothing to do with us' why are they so keen to get involved in tax collection, which is too?

If there was one law for blacks and one for whites, instead of one for chavs and another for buffers, there'd be hell to pay!

 

Rob your praise and assessment of the BiB is fair, good and true. However the person who hit my car "failed to stop at the scene of an accident" and this is a criminal offense otherwise why did last night's update given to me by the police state that the CPS will make the decision?

I.e. a crime has been committed - therefore the BiB have a role to play

 

I'm pretty sure they aren't keen. But tax collectors are allowed to ask for a police escort when they go and repossess stuff or ask for money.


As for the different laws. That’s not exactly true, I think it’s more to do with how the ‘criminal’ responds.
If you or I were to receive a court summons for something like drunk and disorderly we’d be mortified. We’d be embarrassed. We’d show up to court in a suit hat in had apologising about being a drunken fool. (probably). We’d take the bollocking pay the fine and get out of there.
The chav wouldn’t. For a start he might just ignore the summons. After a few summons and warrant for his arrest he might show up. He’d be a mouthy prick in court, just shy of contempt. He’d claim to have no money for the fine.
The court would have little choice but to jail him or release him with a fine he probably won’t bother paying.
Maybe he’ll do that a few times too often and end up in jail for 20 days, but that’s nothing to him – he’ll just do his 20 days then be back on the street.
It’s not like 20 days in jail will make him lose his job, lose his mortgage or screw up his life.

It’s a depressing situation.
I’m going to get a muffin to cheer myself up.

 

[QUOTE=Kelk,Mar 26 2010, 10:04 AM] Rob your praise and assessment of the BiB is fair, good and true.

 

Cool - thanks John