Undertaking - More accepted ?
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Originally Posted by Moggy,Aug 15 2008, 08:39 AM
Given all of the above do we think the driving test should include m/way driving and/or dc driving (on a NSL dc)?
I for one think so.
Maybe a 2 tier test - not allowed m/way and/or dc driving until the 2nd tier is passed.
I for one think so.
Maybe a 2 tier test - not allowed m/way and/or dc driving until the 2nd tier is passed.
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Originally Posted by adz9,Aug 14 2008, 11:42 PM
You dont own the road and have to share with millions of other road users, which means you need to obay rules. Keep right accept when overtaking is a rule IN the highway code.
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Originally Posted by Dembo,Aug 15 2008, 09:19 AM
Bad habits start after you pass your test though. A better answer would be compulsory retests every 10 years, which would include motorway driving.
I even wrote to my MP suggesting that, and got a nice letter back from Dr Stephen Ladyman saying, "Yeah. We won't be doing that. But thanks"
Originally Posted by lovegroover
I suppose it might encourage a few to drive better afterwards but most people are not interested in driving correctly or well, they just want to get to their destinations
Like the 10%* of the population who are SURE that the speed limit on the M-way is 50 in lane 1, 60 in lane 2, and 70 in lane 3.
etc.
( *Rounded up
)
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Originally Posted by Fletch,Aug 15 2008, 08:40 AM
It's not just about getting people to drive better, it's also about telling them that the rules arn't actually what they think they are.
Like the 10%* of the population who are SURE that the speed limit on the M-way is 50 in lane 1, 60 in lane 2, and 70 in lane 3.
etc.
( *Rounded up )
Like the 10%* of the population who are SURE that the speed limit on the M-way is 50 in lane 1, 60 in lane 2, and 70 in lane 3.
etc.
( *Rounded up
) I think most people would change their ways if they understood the rules, and also if the understood what their actions entailed.
I'm sure most middle lane hoggers don't understand the danger and inconvenience they create
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You're all falling into the trap of thinking that legislation = education. It most likely the converse.
There is a voluntary "plus" test that basically tells you to forget all that crap you learned for the test & how to drive properly.
But even a proper driving standards test wouldn't cure the British Loser Syndrome; that's ingrained form an early age.
There is a voluntary "plus" test that basically tells you to forget all that crap you learned for the test & how to drive properly.
But even a proper driving standards test wouldn't cure the British Loser Syndrome; that's ingrained form an early age.
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The system's now so farked, I don't think there's a way of repairing it; too many self-interest groups involved. And now they're in power, the executive CGAF about the plebescite.
Only after the population completely loses its rag with 'the system' will there be enough shock/awe for it to change for the better.
I think people are still too complacent for that to happen just yet, but there are early rumblings.
If it does happen, it'd be unpleasant for many.
But as it stands, I think it's simply up to those of us who are self-assured and capable of undertanding traffic flow to make allowances for those who aren't/cannot.
Only after the population completely loses its rag with 'the system' will there be enough shock/awe for it to change for the better.
I think people are still too complacent for that to happen just yet, but there are early rumblings.
If it does happen, it'd be unpleasant for many.
But as it stands, I think it's simply up to those of us who are self-assured and capable of undertanding traffic flow to make allowances for those who aren't/cannot.