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Old Nov 13, 2009 | 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by shareall,Nov 13 2009, 10:33 AM
Okay, you're the rule.
Old Nov 13, 2009 | 06:51 AM
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Old Nov 13, 2009 | 07:47 AM
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Old Nov 13, 2009 | 07:55 AM
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C is a rooster

Old Nov 13, 2009 | 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by shareall,Nov 13 2009, 07:32 AM
Actually in some ways I think you're right. I think there a lot of people who don't choose to stay together because they choose not to continue loving, and choose not to continue trying. Obviously easier said than done. I think sometimes people overestimate their abilities and/or are overwhelmed by things...There are probably tons of explanations for why people don't do what they say they're going to do. I'm the same - I'm just as guilty. Ultimately everyone struggles with it.
I think there's too much slant put on "in love" vs. loving someone and/or simply being committed to them. Many people want to be gratified constantly (if not instantly). What's in it for me? Why should I be there for you? It's a trend in our society today...both in work and our personal lives. Increasingly, we are a "nomadic" people. We don't feel commitment to our employers (nor they to us). We don't feel commitment to our partners in a relationship (nor they to us). We want what we want and we'll wander around until we get it...or until we've wandered all through life and never found it because we weren't willing to see beyond our own wants...

Frankly, it's pathetic. It's pathetic when the person you're with doesn't recognize what you do and they quit, and it's pathetic when you say "I can't see any other way to resolve this" and file for divorce.

It's pathetic...stupid...a waste. Worst of all, it makes me feel ashamed...
Old Nov 13, 2009 | 10:31 AM
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I simply refused to be ashamed.
Old Nov 13, 2009 | 10:31 AM
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886!
Old Nov 13, 2009 | 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by thebig33tuna,Nov 13 2009, 11:55 AM
C is a rooster

Old Nov 13, 2009 | 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by brantshali,Nov 13 2009, 01:22 PM
I think there's too much slant put on "in love" vs. loving someone and/or simply being committed to them. Many people want to be gratified constantly (if not instantly). What's in it for me? Why should I be there for you? It's a trend in our society today...both in work and our personal lives. Increasingly, we are a "nomadic" people. We don't feel commitment to our employers (nor they to us). We don't feel commitment to our partners in a relationship (nor they to us). We want what we want and we'll wander around until we get it...or until we've wandered all through life and never found it because we weren't willing to see beyond our own wants...

Frankly, it's pathetic. It's pathetic when the person you're with doesn't recognize what you do and they quit, and it's pathetic when you say "I can't see any other way to resolve this" and file for divorce.

It's pathetic...stupid...a waste. Worst of all, it makes me feel ashamed...
1000000%. Western society is very much focused on not only wanting everything now but feeling entitled to get just that. I'm disheartened by the notion that if we don't get what we want when we want it, society seems to wholeheartedly endorse people going to any lengths to have their "needs" (which are actually wants) met.

It amazing that more people are not ashamed and completely embarrassed about this kind of thing. It's been suggested to me several times that there are plenty of people who are in fact ashamed, but I don't know. Are we so incapable of having social relationships that we'd rather choose to let our hearts break instead of fighting?
Old Nov 13, 2009 | 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by 8D_In_Trunk,Nov 13 2009, 02:31 PM
886!
I'm clueless. Absolutely clueless.



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