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From: The HS that is NoVA
Originally Posted by Poindexter,Jan 24 2007, 04:05 PM
We can certify the Porsche for him, then he has a 2 year warranty 
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The only warranty I know of that covers brakes is BMW's new car warranty. Nobody covers tires. I know of no used car that comes with a maintenance package, and there are fewer and fewer new car manufacturers who offer those each year. Employee price on a Porsche oil change is not bad compared to other high line cars - actually it is a good $40 cheaper than BMW's. Handles falling off and window regulators are easy to source and repair on Porsche 911's. The water cooled Porsche's have been pretty cheap to maintain compared to the 993 and earlier air cooled cars.
For example: base 993 911 motor costs about $26,000 vs. a base 997 911 being about $11,000. For a $70,000+ car that's pretty inexpensive. The only big issue with the water cooled Porsche's is that Porsche does not offer new transmissions - they have to be rebuilt, and only a handful of people can do it (we can and Lutzo can). The only Porsche transmissions I've heard of breaking were due to mis-shifts at the track. I can only recall two people doing it.
I know Chad would be looking at 996's, but did you know that the 2005+ 987 and 997's are the most reliable high line cars on the street? Porsche hired Toyota to build the electrical systems and redesign and map the computer systems. The only car Toyota didn't touch was the Cayenne and that is the reason why the whole Porsche brand did not reach the highest marks. The Most BUS system has been practically flawless, unless someone plugs something aftermarket into it.
As far as Chad goes, this conversation is probably all for naught on this car purchase. He seems to be pretty set on the NSX, and only slightly curious about the 911. I think he will eventually make a Stuttgart run down the road though
For example: base 993 911 motor costs about $26,000 vs. a base 997 911 being about $11,000. For a $70,000+ car that's pretty inexpensive. The only big issue with the water cooled Porsche's is that Porsche does not offer new transmissions - they have to be rebuilt, and only a handful of people can do it (we can and Lutzo can). The only Porsche transmissions I've heard of breaking were due to mis-shifts at the track. I can only recall two people doing it.
I know Chad would be looking at 996's, but did you know that the 2005+ 987 and 997's are the most reliable high line cars on the street? Porsche hired Toyota to build the electrical systems and redesign and map the computer systems. The only car Toyota didn't touch was the Cayenne and that is the reason why the whole Porsche brand did not reach the highest marks. The Most BUS system has been practically flawless, unless someone plugs something aftermarket into it.
As far as Chad goes, this conversation is probably all for naught on this car purchase. He seems to be pretty set on the NSX, and only slightly curious about the 911. I think he will eventually make a Stuttgart run down the road though
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From: The HS that is NoVA
Originally Posted by Poindexter,Jan 24 2007, 04:30 PM
The only warranty I know of that covers brakes is BMW's new car warranty. Nobody covers tires. I know of no used car that comes with a maintenance package, and there are fewer and fewer new car manufacturers who offer those each year. Employee price on a Porsche oil change is not bad compared to other high line cars - actually it is a good $40 cheaper than BMW's. Handles falling off and window regulators are easy to source and repair on Porsche 911's. The water cooled Porsche's have been pretty cheap to maintain compared to the 993 and earlier air cooled cars.
For example: base 993 911 motor costs about $26,000 vs. a base 997 911 being about $11,000. For a $70,000+ car that's pretty inexpensive. The only big issue with the water cooled Porsche's is that Porsche does not offer new transmissions - they have to be rebuilt, and only a handful of people can do it (we can and Lutzo can). The only Porsche transmissions I've heard of breaking were due to mis-shifts at the track. I can only recall two people doing it.
I know Chad would be looking at 996's, but did you know that the 2005+ 987 and 997's are the most reliable high line cars on the street? Porsche hired Toyota to build the electrical systems and redesign and map the computer systems. The only car Toyota didn't touch was the Cayenne and that is the reason why the whole Porsche brand did not reach the highest marks. The Most BUS system has been practically flawless, unless someone plugs something aftermarket into it.
As far as Chad goes, this conversation is probably all for naught on this car purchase. He seems to be pretty set on the NSX, and only slightly curious about the 911. I think he will eventually make a Stuttgart run down the road though
For example: base 993 911 motor costs about $26,000 vs. a base 997 911 being about $11,000. For a $70,000+ car that's pretty inexpensive. The only big issue with the water cooled Porsche's is that Porsche does not offer new transmissions - they have to be rebuilt, and only a handful of people can do it (we can and Lutzo can). The only Porsche transmissions I've heard of breaking were due to mis-shifts at the track. I can only recall two people doing it.
I know Chad would be looking at 996's, but did you know that the 2005+ 987 and 997's are the most reliable high line cars on the street? Porsche hired Toyota to build the electrical systems and redesign and map the computer systems. The only car Toyota didn't touch was the Cayenne and that is the reason why the whole Porsche brand did not reach the highest marks. The Most BUS system has been practically flawless, unless someone plugs something aftermarket into it.
As far as Chad goes, this conversation is probably all for naught on this car purchase. He seems to be pretty set on the NSX, and only slightly curious about the 911. I think he will eventually make a Stuttgart run down the road though
And wow... how is it that the newer car's motor is cheaper than an older car's??? even though the newer one is well..newer and has all kinds of new technologies and systems. And THAT much cheaper???? That is weird. I'm guessing the tranny breaking wouldn't really be an issue...
But you're right, I don't really think Chad wants a porsche or german car... He just wants an NSX. I guess this convo/info would better be saved for a different thread or time to discuss
I personally have no real brand or "xDM" preference. I like cars and car makers individually and judge them individually, thats why I like to know and learn about any of them if I can... especially about the better ones like Porsche, Mercedes, BMW, etc etc...back to NSX talk...
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From: MoCo
Originally Posted by Poindexter,Jan 24 2007, 02:05 PM
I love the color on the second one, Lapis Blue on the third one is nice too.
