2013 Track Junkie Thread
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Originally Posted by iLuveketchup' timestamp='1369350150' post='22563343
[quote name='robrob' timestamp='1369347029' post='22563267']
[quote name='iLuveketchup' timestamp='1369324356' post='22562204']
My preference is to run no rear bar at the auto-x & track.
[quote name='iLuveketchup' timestamp='1369324356' post='22562204']
My preference is to run no rear bar at the auto-x & track.
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I am running 800/700 so I'll definitely try it. Apparently the fast guys do sometimes run no rear bar on the track and I just wasn't paying attention
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I ran a 1:40.5 at my first & only weekend at Shenandoah with no rear bar.
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Originally Posted by goldenfri' timestamp='1369402420' post='22564349
[quote name='iLuveketchup' timestamp='1369350150' post='22563343']
[quote name='robrob' timestamp='1369347029' post='22563267']
[quote name='iLuveketchup' timestamp='1369324356' post='22562204']
My preference is to run no rear bar at the auto-x & track.
[quote name='robrob' timestamp='1369347029' post='22563267']
[quote name='iLuveketchup' timestamp='1369324356' post='22562204']
My preference is to run no rear bar at the auto-x & track.
[/quote]
I am running 800/700 so I'll definitely try it. Apparently the fast guys do sometimes run no rear bar on the track and I just wasn't paying attention
[/quote]
I ran a 1:40.5 at my first & only weekend at Shenandoah with no rear bar.
[/quote]
Wow nice
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A couple other thoughts from this weekend (I'm sure this is common knowledge to many folks)..
-Running on stock tires sizes 215/245 HTR ZIII's, I can definitely see how a non-staggere7d setup with larger front tires would help braking. On my last few sessions I was harder on the brakes and got the ABS to kick in a little at times. Some more grip up front would mean I'd have more traction and I could get on the brakes a little later/harder.
-The Sumitomo HTR ZIII's felt good to me, and I think I'll probably get another set (but in 225/255). I've heard from some people that they're aren't that good, but I think they did just fine. They were at ~40psi hot. I may be giving up some performance compared to some other tires but they're significantly cheaper, and have good tread life on the street. For a weekend warrior setup they seem like solid tires.
-It might be worth rigging up some kind of oil temp gauge for the track. Does a fitting exist that can replace the stock oil pan drain plug with a threaded hole for an oil temp sensor? Would be nice to monitor temps a little so as to not cook the oil. I'm running good old dino Castrol GTX 10w30.
-Brake ducting seems like a cheap "investment." If it means longer pad life that's money saved. For those that drive their car on the street do you just disconnect the ducting after the track?
-Modifry seat belt lock is worth the money. Wireless remote is awesome so you don't even have to mount a switch!
-Running on stock tires sizes 215/245 HTR ZIII's, I can definitely see how a non-staggere7d setup with larger front tires would help braking. On my last few sessions I was harder on the brakes and got the ABS to kick in a little at times. Some more grip up front would mean I'd have more traction and I could get on the brakes a little later/harder.
-The Sumitomo HTR ZIII's felt good to me, and I think I'll probably get another set (but in 225/255). I've heard from some people that they're aren't that good, but I think they did just fine. They were at ~40psi hot. I may be giving up some performance compared to some other tires but they're significantly cheaper, and have good tread life on the street. For a weekend warrior setup they seem like solid tires.
-It might be worth rigging up some kind of oil temp gauge for the track. Does a fitting exist that can replace the stock oil pan drain plug with a threaded hole for an oil temp sensor? Would be nice to monitor temps a little so as to not cook the oil. I'm running good old dino Castrol GTX 10w30.
-Brake ducting seems like a cheap "investment." If it means longer pad life that's money saved. For those that drive their car on the street do you just disconnect the ducting after the track?
-Modifry seat belt lock is worth the money. Wireless remote is awesome so you don't even have to mount a switch!
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Originally Posted by SlowTeg' timestamp='1369237904' post='22559639
A couple other thoughts from this weekend (I'm sure this is common knowledge to many folks)..
-Running on stock tires sizes 215/245 HTR ZIII's, I can definitely see how a non-staggere7d setup with larger front tires would help braking. On my last few sessions I was harder on the brakes and got the ABS to kick in a little at times. Some more grip up front would mean I'd have more traction and I could get on the brakes a little later/harder.
-The Sumitomo HTR ZIII's felt good to me, and I think I'll probably get another set (but in 225/255). I've heard from some people that they're aren't that good, but I think they did just fine. They were at ~40psi hot. I may be giving up some performance compared to some other tires but they're significantly cheaper, and have good tread life on the street. For a weekend warrior setup they seem like solid tires.
-It might be worth rigging up some kind of oil temp gauge for the track. Does a fitting exist that can replace the stock oil pan drain plug with a threaded hole for an oil temp sensor? Would be nice to monitor temps a little so as to not cook the oil. I'm running good old dino Castrol GTX 10w30.
-Brake ducting seems like a cheap "investment." If it means longer pad life that's money saved. For those that drive their car on the street do you just disconnect the ducting after the track?
-Modifry seat belt lock is worth the money. Wireless remote is awesome so you don't even have to mount a switch!
-Running on stock tires sizes 215/245 HTR ZIII's, I can definitely see how a non-staggere7d setup with larger front tires would help braking. On my last few sessions I was harder on the brakes and got the ABS to kick in a little at times. Some more grip up front would mean I'd have more traction and I could get on the brakes a little later/harder.
-The Sumitomo HTR ZIII's felt good to me, and I think I'll probably get another set (but in 225/255). I've heard from some people that they're aren't that good, but I think they did just fine. They were at ~40psi hot. I may be giving up some performance compared to some other tires but they're significantly cheaper, and have good tread life on the street. For a weekend warrior setup they seem like solid tires.
-It might be worth rigging up some kind of oil temp gauge for the track. Does a fitting exist that can replace the stock oil pan drain plug with a threaded hole for an oil temp sensor? Would be nice to monitor temps a little so as to not cook the oil. I'm running good old dino Castrol GTX 10w30.
-Brake ducting seems like a cheap "investment." If it means longer pad life that's money saved. For those that drive their car on the street do you just disconnect the ducting after the track?
-Modifry seat belt lock is worth the money. Wireless remote is awesome so you don't even have to mount a switch!
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I finally finished all the bushing replacements today on my rx7. Here is the pile of old bushings:
One of the bushings shot out with enough force to crack my bucket that was waiting to catch it.
Front end:
-Upper control arm
-Lower control arm
Rear end:
-Pillow ball bushings x6
-Upper control arm
-Lower control arm
-Sway bar
I know I'm forgetting a few and it doesn't seem like that many. However, removing and replacing individual pieces of suspension work takes a long time. I also changed my oil today - 9 total quarts of amsoil.
Tomorrow is brake fluid, transmission and differential fluids then its ready for hyperfest!
One of the bushings shot out with enough force to crack my bucket that was waiting to catch it.
Front end:
-Upper control arm
-Lower control arm
Rear end:
-Pillow ball bushings x6
-Upper control arm
-Lower control arm
-Sway bar
I know I'm forgetting a few and it doesn't seem like that many. However, removing and replacing individual pieces of suspension work takes a long time. I also changed my oil today - 9 total quarts of amsoil.
Tomorrow is brake fluid, transmission and differential fluids then its ready for hyperfest!
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I finally finished all the bushing replacements today on my rx7. Here is the pile of old bushings:
One of the bushings shot out with enough force to crack my bucket that was waiting to catch it.
Front end:
-Upper control arm
-Lower control arm
Rear end:
-Pillow ball bushings x6
-Upper control arm
-Lower control arm
-Sway bar
I know I'm forgetting a few and it doesn't seem like that many. However, removing and replacing individual pieces of suspension work takes a long time. I also changed my oil today - 9 total quarts of amsoil.
Tomorrow is brake fluid, transmission and differential fluids then its ready for hyperfest!
One of the bushings shot out with enough force to crack my bucket that was waiting to catch it.
Front end:
-Upper control arm
-Lower control arm
Rear end:
-Pillow ball bushings x6
-Upper control arm
-Lower control arm
-Sway bar
I know I'm forgetting a few and it doesn't seem like that many. However, removing and replacing individual pieces of suspension work takes a long time. I also changed my oil today - 9 total quarts of amsoil.
Tomorrow is brake fluid, transmission and differential fluids then its ready for hyperfest!
Nice
. People never understand how much work that is until they have done it.There was a LS(insert some number here that I forgot) swapped RX7 at the last Track Daze event. Sounded awesome out on track. I can't wait to see what kind of lap times your car runs.
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From: High Knob Mountain
I finally finished all the bushing replacements today on my rx7. Here is the pile of old bushings:
One of the bushings shot out with enough force to crack my bucket that was waiting to catch it.
Front end:
-Upper control arm
-Lower control arm
Rear end:
-Pillow ball bushings x6
-Upper control arm
-Lower control arm
-Sway bar
I know I'm forgetting a few and it doesn't seem like that many. However, removing and replacing individual pieces of suspension work takes a long time. I also changed my oil today - 9 total quarts of amsoil.
Tomorrow is brake fluid, transmission and differential fluids then its ready for hyperfest!
One of the bushings shot out with enough force to crack my bucket that was waiting to catch it.
Front end:
-Upper control arm
-Lower control arm
Rear end:
-Pillow ball bushings x6
-Upper control arm
-Lower control arm
-Sway bar
I know I'm forgetting a few and it doesn't seem like that many. However, removing and replacing individual pieces of suspension work takes a long time. I also changed my oil today - 9 total quarts of amsoil.
Tomorrow is brake fluid, transmission and differential fluids then its ready for hyperfest!
That is a PITA
I need to change the bushings on my 21 year old Miata, I seem to find all sorts of other things to do instead..
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Originally Posted by metros' timestamp='1369606746' post='22568414
I finally finished all the bushing replacements today on my rx7. Here is the pile of old bushings:
One of the bushings shot out with enough force to crack my bucket that was waiting to catch it.
Front end:
-Upper control arm
-Lower control arm
Rear end:
-Pillow ball bushings x6
-Upper control arm
-Lower control arm
-Sway bar
I know I'm forgetting a few and it doesn't seem like that many. However, removing and replacing individual pieces of suspension work takes a long time. I also changed my oil today - 9 total quarts of amsoil.
Tomorrow is brake fluid, transmission and differential fluids then its ready for hyperfest!
One of the bushings shot out with enough force to crack my bucket that was waiting to catch it.
Front end:
-Upper control arm
-Lower control arm
Rear end:
-Pillow ball bushings x6
-Upper control arm
-Lower control arm
-Sway bar
I know I'm forgetting a few and it doesn't seem like that many. However, removing and replacing individual pieces of suspension work takes a long time. I also changed my oil today - 9 total quarts of amsoil.
Tomorrow is brake fluid, transmission and differential fluids then its ready for hyperfest!
That is a PITA
I need to change the bushings on my 21 year old Miata, I seem to find all sorts of other things to do instead..
Maybe that will motivate you to get the job done?
I think I want to run shenandoah this year after hyperfest at some time. I ran shenandoah for my first track day 4-5 years ago on all season tires. I'd like to run it again now that I have a little bit of experience. I imagine it'll be like learning the track all over again since it was my first event. Think at hyperfest I'm going to mess around with Harry's lap timer. I've never timed any of my laps but am generally curious what kind of times I'm running compared to the truly fast guys.
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I just pressed the left upper a-arm bushings out today. It took a while to find the right size insert and receiver to make it work but it is possible to do them with the a-arm still attached to the ball joint. I've got to drill and tap the grease zerk and I'll be ready to install the Powerflex Race bushings (95A). I was surprised to find the upper bushings were in great shape after 13 years on the road and track so I'm probably won't notice a difference when I get all the upper a-arm bushings swapped out. I'm going to do the lowers this winter--they're much more labor intensive.