Heel & Toe
Originally Posted by bighead,May 26 2009, 09:55 AM
yeah, you remove the oem covers and install the new pedals on top of the original backing plates
I didn't dig the CNC marks so I got the matte ones:
[IMG]http://www.autovationparts.com/store/media/images/SPHOS21M.JPG[IMG]
I didn't dig the CNC marks so I got the matte ones:
[IMG]http://www.autovationparts.com/store/media/images/SPHOS21M.JPG[IMG]
Originally Posted by bighead,May 26 2009, 09:55 AM
yeah, you remove the oem covers and install the new pedals on top of the original backing plates
I didn't dig the CNC marks so I got the matte ones:

I didn't dig the CNC marks so I got the matte ones:
You have to practice heel & toe on the street as often as you can. Don't be afraid to blip the rpm way up there, you'll have more time to finish the shift. Keep in mind the blip is primarily for the clutch engagement, not for moving the shifter into gear.
Originally Posted by robrob,May 25 2009, 09:11 PM
It's almost impossible to threshold brake and blend into a proper trail braking corner using your thigh muscles which is what you're using with your heel off the floor.
I have to disagree with you on this one. When you are harnessed in (ie. not using your feet to brace yourself), heel toeing with ball of foot on brake and heel on throttle (no part of foot touching floor) IS possible and becomes automatic with practice. The upper leg is largely immobile after the initial threshold braking is achieved with the calf muscle controlling most of the foot movement required for the throttle blip and follow-up brake pedal modulation.
A smooth transition to left foot braking (with simultaneous right foot throttle control) is also possible by rolling the left foot onto the brake pedal and rolling the ball of the right foot off the brake pedal.
All this is predicated on being harnessed in, if not most fine motor leg movements are screwed up if you need your legs to hold your body in place (with certainly is happening during threshold braking for example).
Originally Posted by robrob,May 26 2009, 09:29 AM
You have to practice heel & toe on the street as often as you can. Don't be afraid to blip the rpm way up there, you'll have more time to finish the shift. Keep in mind the blip is primarily for the clutch engagement, not for moving the shifter into gear.
I respectfully disagree Pete. The S's excellent ABS covers a lot of mistakes. You really need to have your heel on the floor to make the fine muscle movements required to threshold brake, lock a single tire, then release just enough brake to get it turning again. Many champion drivers describe curling their toes to add and release brake pedal pressure, you just can't do that with your leg in the air. You can definitely brake "good enough" with your leg in the air, but if you really want to learn to brake properly you have to index your heel.
Originally Posted by robrob,May 26 2009, 07:23 PM
I respectfully disagree Pete. The S's excellent ABS covers a lot of mistakes. You really need to have your heel on the floor to make the fine muscle movements required to threshold brake, lock a single tire, then release just enough brake to get it turning again. Many champion drivers describe curling their toes to add and release brake pedal pressure, you just can't do that with your leg in the air. You can definitely brake "good enough" with your leg in the air, but if you really want to learn to brake properly you have to index your heel.
I am talking about this in my Miata. With no ABS. I think your theory is disagreeing with my practice.
Think about this: The threshold braking section of a turn is not the trail braking portion of a turn.
I have no problem locking, unlocking, locking (threshold) with my leg in the air.
Perhaps what helps me too is that I left foot modulate the brake while heel/toing with my right foot.








