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Finally my Springfield .45 pistol has arrived

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Old May 15, 2004 | 07:27 PM
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I'm pretty sure seals use HK USP 45's.
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Old May 15, 2004 | 08:10 PM
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yeah i didnt think the seals would use sigs.. even the fbi now dont use sigs anymore
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Old May 15, 2004 | 10:22 PM
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Originally posted by MidnightDragon
I'm pretty sure seals use HK USP 45's.
Hey nice plug!

I have a HK USP .45 ACP w/ UTL (the tactical light) for sale.
It has about 600 rounds through it and is in "like new condition"....except for those 600 rounds through it

Make an offer............

I'll ship only to a FFL dealer.
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Old May 15, 2004 | 11:59 PM
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They use both.. USP SOCOM/MK23, Sigs, others (1911 etc.) as well. Whatever fits the situation.
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Old May 17, 2004 | 12:32 AM
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Originally posted by EvoVII
I like Chris Rock's idea.. don't outlaw guns, but make the bullets $5000 a piece
I seriously hope that day will never come, ever! The Democrats that run People's Rep. of Kali-foo-nia isn't too impressed with 2nd amendment proponents, and now there's a senate (assembly?) bill on putting insane taxes on bullets, along with other anti-gun bills, piling up on Ah-nuld's desk, waiting for his signature. Not a good sign.......
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Old May 17, 2004 | 12:33 AM
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Since we're on the subject, anyone reload their own ammunitions?
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Old May 17, 2004 | 06:02 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Zanardi50
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Old May 17, 2004 | 12:36 PM
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Seals are allowed to choose their own weapons for the most part, but they are issued Sig P226 in 9mm.

http://www.sigarms.com/products/newproducts.asp#198

I have a P226ST in .40. I love it.
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Old May 17, 2004 | 03:41 PM
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Holy crap batman, finally a topic on the S2Ki forum that I feel that I can respond with good, clear info, and actually know what I'm talking about!! All that other stuff about tires, CAI, etc just boggles the mind, but I"m learning!!

Now, to the good stuff....
For starters, to quantify what I'm getting ready to say, so folks know where I'm coming from - I'm competitive, at the national level, in what's known as IDPA (International Defensive Pistol Association idpa.com) and have finished in the top 6 overall in my division the past two years, and aim to finish top 3 this year. I'm a firearms instructor, and have trained local Police/SWAT/Tac guys and have trained with the best shooters in the biz. I probably shoot in excess of 15-20,000 rounds a year.

I personally prefer the 1911 platform - my main carry/competition pistol is based on the STI frame (a widebody, polymer .45) and to most folks, would look just like a standard 1911. Second choice is a Glock. Third would be the newish Springfield XD's. I personally detest Sigs - while they are indeed accurate, their controls are in the wrong place, and the 'tallness' of the slide over the frame makes for poor recoil control. That's one of the awesome benefits of a 1911 or Glock, the slide sits low in your hand, centering the pistol in your grip, and making the weapon easier to control. That control is important when you're talking about splits between shots in the .12 to .15 range.

As for caliber, I of course prefer the old standard .45acp. It's been there and done that, for a very very long time. I don't really care much for the .40 or .357 Sig - I think both rounds are answers to a question that didn't really exist. The .40 has a major problem with overpressure, especially in reloads, and the .357 Sig's ballistics just don't impress me that much - plus - when you shoot indoors, or around barricades as much as I do, you learn to dread the shooters with the .357 Sig because they will blow your ears out - they're louder than snot!

I load my own rounds for .45 on my Dillon press, but just buy 9mm or .223 at the store, it's so cheap that it doesn't make sense to reload.

I'm really not a big believer in the theory that the bigger the round, the better stopper it is - it's all about shot placement and frankly, I don't want to get shot with a .22, much less anything else. And, in all honesty, pistol rounds are notoriously poor man stoppers - your pistol should just be used to fight your way to your carbine!

And, well I guess the usual disclaimer applies - YMMV.
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Old May 17, 2004 | 04:04 PM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by catfish
Third would be the newish Springfield XD's.
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