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Old Aug 29, 2005 | 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by naseeb,Aug 28 2005, 12:29 AM
The Indians who you think can't speak a word of English have learned multiple languages at school and do quite well for English not being their first language.
While this is true, it misses the point - when a customer calls a support center, they should not have to deal with communications barriers of this nature. That their English is quite good for being a second or third language is moot. If the average American (the customer) can not understand them and vice versa, the outsourcing agency is failing in their mission to provide a lower cost alternative to American staffed call centers.
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Old Aug 29, 2005 | 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by WestSideBilly,Aug 29 2005, 08:32 AM
If the average American (the customer) can not understand them and vice versa, the outsourcing agency is failing in their mission to provide a lower cost alternative to American staffed call centers.
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Old Aug 29, 2005 | 08:06 AM
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Darn it guys, you are slowing down.

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Old Aug 29, 2005 | 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by RUGBY,Aug 29 2005, 09:35 AM
I believe the proper word is "sure", not "shore". Perhaps you have the communication issue, not India??? Just a thought.
Well you understood. Correct ?Point made.... Don't take it personal buddy.
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Old Aug 29, 2005 | 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by My R2,Aug 29 2005, 09:43 AM
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Look who is talking about getting owned. Shiri's troll son. Please......
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Old Aug 29, 2005 | 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by F1s2000,Aug 29 2005, 11:45 AM
Well you understood. Correct ?Point made.... Don't take it personal buddy.
Actually, I don't understand your point. If you don't like the CSA and overall level of service, take your card business elsewhere. Plenty of choices in the card market. Unfortunately, these providers have most likely off-shored and/or out-sourced their customer service.

I don't know the driver for your card decision. Many consumers like the 0% teaser rates, no-payment until MMM-200N, cash-back, points/rewards, etc. These cost money and the business model does not support these incentives, in addition to U.S.-based back-office, operations and customer support.

I'm all for keeping jobs in the U.S. However, I also shop low-cost (lowest cost) and the price for that choice is a product or service that typically has a high percentage of over-seas (third world) component.
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Old Aug 29, 2005 | 09:35 AM
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[QUOTE=RUGBY,Aug 29 2005, 12:22 PM] Actually, I don't understand your point.
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Old Aug 29, 2005 | 10:16 AM
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[QUOTE=My R2,Aug 29 2005, 11:06 AM] Darn it guys, you are slowing down.
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Old Aug 29, 2005 | 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by 2kturkey,Aug 29 2005, 01:33 AM
In Australia we have 8 National Holidays
Xmas day, Boxing day, New Year, Australia day, Good Friday, Easter Monday, Anzac day and Queens Birthday

On top of this each state has a couple of local Holidays - in my state these are Labour day and Cup Day.

According to my calculations the number of holidays isn't very different to the U.S.
My bad. . . it always seems like our Australian affiliates have a ton of "office closings," but if you say you have 8 national holidays plus a couple of state holidays, I'm probably off. My firm observes 6 national holidays (New Years Day, Memorial Day, Independence Day, Labor Day, Thanksgiving, and Christmas), so it looks like you guys get about 4 more than we do (but I work for a pretty stingy place).

In an outsourcing deal I've recently worked on, the vast majority of the work stayed within the U.S. I believe much of that is for political reasons, but the Indian firms (Tata, Satyam) simply didn't offer the total value the client was looking for. By that, I mean they didn't have the global presence to service a global corporation (they could do the U.S. and Asian work, but fell way short of European, Latin American, and African capabilities). I'd imagine this trend will continue as companies continue globalize. The Indial outsourcing firms will have to mature into those markets (not sure how) to compete.

Outsourcing doesn't always mean offshoring. . . it just means finding someone outside of the company to do a job cheaper.
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Old Aug 29, 2005 | 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by happs22,Aug 29 2005, 02:46 PM
The Indial outsourcing firms will have to mature into those markets (not sure how) to compete.
They will need to learn to say "I not understand" in different languages. "No comprendo."

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