Intersting Debate
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Originally Posted by NFRs2000NYC,Mar 19 2009, 02:09 PM
Hmm, I guess "smart" is really throwing a wrench into the works. The main point we are all arguing is that computers currently lack the power of reason. This brings us to the point of things like I-robot and Gears of War. AI getting better and better, as evidenced by many current video games (although the AI is still loosely based on a given series of events and the outcomes.) Can something like I-robot be technically possible?
The essence of this argument lies within on simple question....can a human create a computer that can think on it's own?
The essence of this argument lies within on simple question....can a human create a computer that can think on it's own?
What's your definition of "think?"
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Originally Posted by Nandska,Mar 19 2009, 07:42 AM
I guess my arguement is more based on, people will become so dependent on technology that they will become as "dumb" as computers.
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Originally Posted by Nandska,Mar 19 2009, 07:15 AM
It's like someone asking you what color grass is. And of course, you know it's green. But if everyone keeps saying it's blue, in time, you will start to second guess yourself and start to believe it's blue.
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Originally Posted by 8D_In_Trunk,Mar 19 2009, 03:22 PM
The situations presently, are similar to what a psychologist might call a schema. The issue remains, as I stated, that humans have a "perfectly-imperfect" method to integrate disparate schemas, where AI, even good AI, will integrate things in an absolutely methodical manner.
Computers will produce a Vulcan, and Humans will remain like Shatner.
Computers will produce a Vulcan, and Humans will remain like Shatner.
The real question is whether we humans are capable of producing such a program, not whether a program could theoretically be that - it absolutely can.
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Originally Posted by Elistan,Mar 19 2009, 09:37 PM
A computer program, one sufficiently complex and advanced, is entirely capable of embodying the exact same mistakes, creativity, innovation, intuition, serendipity, etc., that a human is capable of.
The real question is whether we humans are capable of producing such a program, not whether a program could theoretically be that - it absolutely can.
The real question is whether we humans are capable of producing such a program, not whether a program could theoretically be that - it absolutely can.
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Same for a human brain. It's a collection of atoms, electrons and such, subject to the physical laws of the universe. (Unless you want to introduce religion and the concept of a "soul" into the discussion, which is beyond the scope of this thread I think.)
