Microsoft being sued?
Originally Posted by jasonw,Dec 7 2005, 11:58 AM
And why they couldn't cut down on production costs and had an unprofitable gaming division...
Originally Posted by Gink5,Dec 7 2005, 12:08 PM
Bungie unprofitable? They made a killing on Halo 2.
MS is far from the first company to try selling hardware at a loss in order to make money elsewhere. This is the famous "razor blade" strategy. Give the razors away for free, and make money on selling the blades.
Originally Posted by Gink5,Dec 7 2005, 12:08 PM
Bungie unprofitable?
The Xbox game console is hot, but its division has lost $4 billion in four years
I don't remember Sony having this problem with PS1.
Originally Posted by mikegarrison,Dec 7 2005, 12:13 PM
Bungie also made a killing on Myth before they were purchased by MS. I don't know if this shows that MS had a smart plan or just the Bungie has some good game designers.
MS is far from the first company to try selling hardware at a loss in order to make money elsewhere. This is the famous "razor blade" strategy. Give the razors away for free, and make money on selling the blades.
MS is far from the first company to try selling hardware at a loss in order to make money elsewhere. This is the famous "razor blade" strategy. Give the razors away for free, and make money on selling the blades.
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I agree
Originally Posted by jasonw,Dec 7 2005, 12:14 PM
I don't remember Sony having this problem with PS1.
Like mike said, they took those loses so they could aquire a share of the market.
Originally Posted by exceltoexcel,Dec 7 2005, 01:39 PM
This I agree with they should be horizontal, they don't have an horizontal option?
This is a good example:

I don't really like this computer, but its a computer that is in a box that will work in a tv cabinet and I can stack my reciever on it, etc. Plus, it doesn't look like crap. If MS wants to dominate the living room, you'd think its products might be designed to integrate better with it.
And as for the BBC study, they didn't go anywhere, they just plugged the thing in. There are thousands of zombie computers actively looking to infect Windows computers. Actually visiting malicious sites is just another way to get infected, but its entirely uneccessary to get an infected computer.
Originally Posted by jasonw,Dec 7 2005, 02:58 PM
And why they couldn't cut down on production costs and had an unprofitable gaming division...
Originally Posted by exceltoexcel,Dec 7 2005, 12:17 PM
And lower quality or performance to do so? They played the market the exact right way. They saw the whole picture rather than the short term.
Originally Posted by Gink5,Dec 7 2005, 03:16 PM
They are going to have it alittle harder this time around considering games like final fantasy and resident evil are being released on the xbox. should be interesting to say the least.
Like mike said, they took those loses so they could aquire a share of the market.
Like mike said, they took those loses so they could aquire a share of the market.
Originally Posted by jasonw,Dec 7 2005, 12:19 PM
You don't get it. They weren't able to integrate components over time to reduce production costs because they were using parts from competing companies. Sony did reduce costs over time with the PS2.






