To those who were offended

IN YOUR FACE!!!

I always believe this was to honor and respect our fallen, good thing we allowed this memorial to stay up.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100428/ap_on_...rt_mojave_cross

 

Says you. I still find it very offensive.

Honoring the fallen soldiers would be to protect the constitution especially separation of church and state, not putting it in the faces of non christian Americans.

 

The land was transferred by the state to a private party. A minor detail lower courts missed but the Supreme Court did identify. Separation of church and state is not even an issue here when the land is privately held.

 

^ I'm surprised you find it offensive, Raj.

I'm completely non-religious and wouldn't support placing a cross there if there weren't already one there, but I'm not offended by the recognition of Vet's that happens to exist currently in the form of a cross.

Maybe it's not the best symbol to use, but is it really offensive?

 

Overbooster: The transfer into private hands is just a loophole. It gets around the law. Privatizing a small patch of land in the middle of an expanse of federal land. Give me break.


Mike: I don't like religious symbols in my face of any kind. I wish people kept their religions to themselves. Big roadside crosses are annoying as hell on private or public land. How about a military symbol or better a US flag to mark the spot. These were US soldiers not soldiers of Jesus.

I'd love to see how supportive all the good Christians would be if there was a Muslim minaret or a Star of David, that was there instead of a cross.

 

I dont take the side of any religion, but I am confident enough in my own existance to not be offended in others beliefs, no matter how they chose to practice or display their faith.

This country boasts religious freedom, and removing the symbols of one faith because another is offended does not seem to be at all constutional.

It just seems that people in this country take their freedoms for granted, we seem to like nothing more than to bitch and get offended at anything anyone does.

I say to each their own, I dont get offended at the multitude of religious symbols I witness on a daily basis. TO be offended I think is arrogant and egocentric, but thats just my view because I respect the rights of a person to display whatever religion they choose.

 

Reguardless of the symbol, id tell whoever was offended to go about their business and let the people worship as they please.

 

I find them annoying, but you are right it's their right to display them.

THIS CASE IS CHOOSING ONE RELIGION TO DISPLAY ON FEDERAL LAND. That is the hang up. I grew up in the US bible belt where i found the dominant religion to be highly oppressive.

I don't take offense in other's religious beliefs except the ones about 1. Damning other's because they don't believe in your religion.
2. Converting others into your religion because living their own lives is somehow wrong.
3. Hurting or killing others because of their religion.

Essentially rules like these make religions viral in nature.

 

Very true! The bible belt choked me too, but I have studied and been around many religions and I find them to all to be the same nature in the end.

Now to add to the situation at hand, say one of the fallen vets family members were a muslim, jew, hindi etc... and they were prohibited from placing the appropriate religions symbol in honor, then I would have a problem.

 

Here we agree.

I'll bet that the families of the fallen soldiers in that grave were not given any choice on the type of symbol that went over the grave.


I love when ignorant people (talking about some of the idiots that responded to the original article) bring up religious symbolism in national military cemeteries and compare that. The difference though is that there are differentiated grave markers there.