Moussaoui Trial
Originally Posted by remedyzrider,May 3 2006, 10:58 PM
Originally Posted by no_really
Besides, it's cheaper to keep in prison for life than put him to death.
I'm pro-death penalty but I think in some cases a life sentence can be more punishment than a trip to the electric chair. I think this is one of them. Although I would have preferred to see the guy fry, spending the rest of his days in SuperMax won't be fun.
I somewhat agree with the disagreement of the hostage situation. Al Quaeda won't do anything for Moussaoui. However, I still hold more than a 50% chance that some other wannabe group will do the traditional hostage for prisoner holdup.
I'm not against the death penalty however it is more costly
http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/article.ph...d=7#From%20DPIC
A New Jersey Policy Perspectives report concluded that the state's death penalty has cost taxpayers $253 million since 1983, a figure that is over and above the costs that would have been incurred had the state utilized a sentence of life without parole instead of death. The study examined the costs of death penalty cases to prosecutor offices, public defender offices, courts, and correctional facilities. The report's authors said that the cost estimate is "very conservative" because other significant costs uniquely associated with the death penalty were not available. "From a strictly financial perspective, it is hard to reach a conclusion other than this: New Jersey taxpayers over the last 23 years have paid more than a quarter billion dollars on a capital punishment system that has executed no one," the report concluded. Since 1982, there have been 197 capital trials in New Jersey and 60 death sentences, of which 50 were reversed. There have been no executions, and 10 men are housed on the state's death row. Michael Murphy, former Morris County prosecutor, remarked: "If you were to ask me how $11 million a year could best protect the people of New Jersey, I would tell you by giving the law enforcement community more resources. I'm not interested in hypotheticals or abstractions, I want the tools for law enforcement to do their job, and $11 million can buy a lot of tools." (See Newsday, Nov. 21, 2005; also Press Release, New Jerseyans for Alternatives to the Death Penalty, Nov. 21, 2005). Read the Executive Summary. Read the full report. Read the NJADP Press Release.
http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/article.ph...d=7#From%20DPIC
A New Jersey Policy Perspectives report concluded that the state's death penalty has cost taxpayers $253 million since 1983, a figure that is over and above the costs that would have been incurred had the state utilized a sentence of life without parole instead of death. The study examined the costs of death penalty cases to prosecutor offices, public defender offices, courts, and correctional facilities. The report's authors said that the cost estimate is "very conservative" because other significant costs uniquely associated with the death penalty were not available. "From a strictly financial perspective, it is hard to reach a conclusion other than this: New Jersey taxpayers over the last 23 years have paid more than a quarter billion dollars on a capital punishment system that has executed no one," the report concluded. Since 1982, there have been 197 capital trials in New Jersey and 60 death sentences, of which 50 were reversed. There have been no executions, and 10 men are housed on the state's death row. Michael Murphy, former Morris County prosecutor, remarked: "If you were to ask me how $11 million a year could best protect the people of New Jersey, I would tell you by giving the law enforcement community more resources. I'm not interested in hypotheticals or abstractions, I want the tools for law enforcement to do their job, and $11 million can buy a lot of tools." (See Newsday, Nov. 21, 2005; also Press Release, New Jerseyans for Alternatives to the Death Penalty, Nov. 21, 2005). Read the Executive Summary. Read the full report. Read the NJADP Press Release.
Originally Posted by exceltoexcel,May 4 2006, 12:42 PM
I'm not against the death penalty however it is more costly
http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/article.ph...d=7#From%20DPIC
A New Jersey Policy Perspectives report concluded that the state's death penalty has cost taxpayers $253 million since 1983, a figure that is over and above the costs that would have been incurred had the state utilized a sentence of life without parole instead of death. The study examined the costs of death penalty cases to prosecutor offices, public defender offices, courts, and correctional facilities. The report's authors said that the cost estimate is "very conservative" because other significant costs uniquely associated with the death penalty were not available. "From a strictly financial perspective, it is hard to reach a conclusion other than this: New Jersey taxpayers over the last 23 years have paid more than a quarter billion dollars on a capital punishment system that has executed no one," the report concluded. Since 1982, there have been 197 capital trials in New Jersey and 60 death sentences, of which 50 were reversed. There have been no executions, and 10 men are housed on the state's death row. Michael Murphy, former Morris County prosecutor, remarked: "If you were to ask me how $11 million a year could best protect the people of New Jersey, I would tell you by giving the law enforcement community more resources. I'm not interested in hypotheticals or abstractions, I want the tools for law enforcement to do their job, and $11 million can buy a lot of tools." (See Newsday, Nov. 21, 2005; also Press Release, New Jerseyans for Alternatives to the Death Penalty, Nov. 21, 2005). Read the Executive Summary. Read the full report. Read the NJADP Press Release.
http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/article.ph...d=7#From%20DPIC
A New Jersey Policy Perspectives report concluded that the state's death penalty has cost taxpayers $253 million since 1983, a figure that is over and above the costs that would have been incurred had the state utilized a sentence of life without parole instead of death. The study examined the costs of death penalty cases to prosecutor offices, public defender offices, courts, and correctional facilities. The report's authors said that the cost estimate is "very conservative" because other significant costs uniquely associated with the death penalty were not available. "From a strictly financial perspective, it is hard to reach a conclusion other than this: New Jersey taxpayers over the last 23 years have paid more than a quarter billion dollars on a capital punishment system that has executed no one," the report concluded. Since 1982, there have been 197 capital trials in New Jersey and 60 death sentences, of which 50 were reversed. There have been no executions, and 10 men are housed on the state's death row. Michael Murphy, former Morris County prosecutor, remarked: "If you were to ask me how $11 million a year could best protect the people of New Jersey, I would tell you by giving the law enforcement community more resources. I'm not interested in hypotheticals or abstractions, I want the tools for law enforcement to do their job, and $11 million can buy a lot of tools." (See Newsday, Nov. 21, 2005; also Press Release, New Jerseyans for Alternatives to the Death Penalty, Nov. 21, 2005). Read the Executive Summary. Read the full report. Read the NJADP Press Release.
A bullet costs $1.46
A stick of dynamite (the way I think he should be killed) is about $5
If there werent so many weenies and greenies, it would be a MUCH cheaper process. An no, death penalty is NOT more costly than having someone living in a prison for 60+ years.
It's not more costly? Of course it is, because of all the appeals and crap. Now should it be, well I guess not. However I wouldn't want to take away any appeals one might have against the death penalty because we've seen many completly innocent, wasn't even in the area had no ties to the crime or the criminals or the vicotms people killed because of some shmuck that got it wrong.
If it were completely up to me, I would execute Moussaoui in live pay-per-view TV with 100% of the earnings going towards a 9/11 victims fund for the families. Charge $25 and millions will tune in to see him fry, get blown up by dynamite, shot in the head, Chinese water torture, eaten by lions, whatever.
Maybe one day we will have this opportunity again with Osama bin Laden.
Maybe one day we will have this opportunity again with Osama bin Laden.
Originally Posted by mav,May 4 2006, 12:59 PM
If it were completely up to me, I would execute Moussaoui in live pay-per-view TV with 100% of the earnings going towards a 9/11 victims fund for the families. Charge $25 and millions will tune in to see him fry, get blown up by dynamite, shot in the head, Chinese water torture, eaten by lions, whatever.
Maybe one day we will have this opportunity again with Osama bin Laden.
Maybe one day we will have this opportunity again with Osama bin Laden.
I believe that all events that effect the whole country (9/11, Oklahoma, etc) should be televised on PPV so that
1)Citizens can have the satisfaction
2)Citizens' money would not go to supporting these people, but their own execution would pay for itself!
$29.99 a pop times 40 million people = A LOT of free dead people.
Originally Posted by NFRs2000NYC,May 4 2006, 12:49 PM
Its more costly, because of all the liberals dragging the process.
A bullet costs $1.46
A stick of dynamite (the way I think he should be killed) is about $5
If there werent so many weenies and greenies, it would be a MUCH cheaper process. An no, death penalty is NOT more costly than having someone living in a prison for 60+ years.
A bullet costs $1.46
A stick of dynamite (the way I think he should be killed) is about $5
If there werent so many weenies and greenies, it would be a MUCH cheaper process. An no, death penalty is NOT more costly than having someone living in a prison for 60+ years.
It's all about cost efficiency


