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Old Jul 23, 2008 | 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by INTJ,Jul 23 2008, 12:27 PM
AGAIN:
For every trite thought... somebody has spent a career analyzing it using science:

"Painstaking experiments have yielded response curves for three different kind of cones in the retina of the human eye. The "green" and "red" cones are mostly packed into the fovea centralis. By population, about 64% of the cones are red-sensitive, about 32% green sensitive, and about 2% are blue sensitive. The "blue" cones have the highest sensitivity and are mostly found outside the fovea. The shapes of the curves are obtained by measurement of the absorption by the cones, but the relative heights for the three types are set equal for lack of detailed data. There are fewer blue cones, but the blue sensitivity is comparable to the others, so there must be some boosting mechanism. In the final visual perception, the three types seem to be comparable, but the detailed process of achieving this is not known. "
Yeah, that didn't help me at all with what I just asked.

Sounds may be similar to colors in certain ways, but sights are a 1-way thing with our bodies. We aren't chameleons who can perceive a color and reproduce it. We can, however perceive a sound and reproduce it using our vocal chords.

So do people who are tone deaf and can't sing well at all have the disconnect in their hearing, or in their ability to recreate the sound? In other words, to them, does it sound like they're reproducing a note properly when in reality it's way the frick off?
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Old Jul 23, 2008 | 12:11 PM
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The gf and I have disagreed on a color once before - she called it blue, I called it grey. I guess my perception of blue just isn't as strong as hers. Or maybe our retinas both work perfectly fine, but our brains interpret the signals differently.
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Old Jul 23, 2008 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by MikeyCB,Jul 23 2008, 02:41 PM
So do people who are tone deaf and can't sing well at all have the disconnect in their hearing, or in their ability to recreate the sound? In other words, to them, does it sound like they're reproducing a note properly when in reality it's way the frick off?
The disconnect is in the brain - without an external reference sound, they simply cannot regnogize a particular frequency, therefore their feedback is off when trying to produce/sing that frequency. Unless it's way, way off, if they're singing on their own without any feedback, they mostly don't know they're off (rather, they might realize it intellectually, but simply cannot "hear" that they're off) or by how much.

It's not a factor of the ears or the vocal cords.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absolute_pitch
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Old Jul 23, 2008 | 01:56 PM
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I asked this same question back in high school. No one could give me an answer (and many didn't understand the question).
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Old Jul 23, 2008 | 04:03 PM
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I'm glad that s2000 owners are smart lol. I was worried I would just be called stupid for posting haha.

I did come up with a brief combat for the theory: How do you explain how a white car is easy to keep clean and a black car isn't?

Then the guy who posted about the blind guy in his class kinda answered it:

White is all colors combined, and black is the absense of color.

So no matter what we all see black and white the same as everyone, including color blind people, correct?
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Old Jul 23, 2008 | 07:22 PM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary%27s_room
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Old Jul 24, 2008 | 05:58 AM
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Why does it matter when we all know Silverstone is the best?
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Old Jul 24, 2008 | 07:03 AM
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We all interpret reality through our own window.
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Old Jul 24, 2008 | 07:16 AM
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reading all of this reminds me of:

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Old Jul 24, 2008 | 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by denvernative,Jul 24 2008, 09:03 AM
We all interpret reality through our own window.
Mine is a bay window and it's cleaner than all of yours.
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