Elemental Designs e8A.44 update
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So I have had 3 proto-types built and still have not had one that was stylish yet durable enough to protect a sub (my opinion). Going to try a cast version to see if it will be more durable. So far the weak area has been on the joints (which we have tried brazing, fusing, pressing - nothing as yet worked to my liking.
I have a guy working on a mold for the cast unit - but I am low on the priority list. I have found out on this project that your level on the priority list is directly proportional to the level (or height) of the green-backs you have stacked on the table in front of the shop owner.
Perhaps someday I will get this finished?
I have a guy working on a mold for the cast unit - but I am low on the priority list. I have found out on this project that your level on the priority list is directly proportional to the level (or height) of the green-backs you have stacked on the table in front of the shop owner.
Perhaps someday I will get this finished?
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William,
Thanks for the update. FWIW, I will probably be ordering the e8A.44 sometime towards the end of the month (pending having the funds), and having it sent directly to you. Therefore, if you would, please PM me your address. Thanks.
Thanks for the update. FWIW, I will probably be ordering the e8A.44 sometime towards the end of the month (pending having the funds), and having it sent directly to you. Therefore, if you would, please PM me your address. Thanks.
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by WLAURENT
[B]So I have had 3 proto-types built and still have not had one that was stylish yet durable enough to protect a sub (my opinion). Going to try a cast version to see if it will be more durable. So far the weak area has been on the joints (which we have tried brazing, fusing, pressing - nothing as yet worked to my liking.
I have a guy working on a mold for the cast unit - but I am low on the priority list. I have found out on this project that your level on the priority list is directly proportional to the level (or height) of the green-backs you have stacked on the table in front of the shop owner.
[B]So I have had 3 proto-types built and still have not had one that was stylish yet durable enough to protect a sub (my opinion). Going to try a cast version to see if it will be more durable. So far the weak area has been on the joints (which we have tried brazing, fusing, pressing - nothing as yet worked to my liking.
I have a guy working on a mold for the cast unit - but I am low on the priority list. I have found out on this project that your level on the priority list is directly proportional to the level (or height) of the green-backs you have stacked on the table in front of the shop owner.
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Originally posted by WLAURENT
My shop is building one more prototype while the other shop is building the mold for the cast version. I will send it to you and let you test it out. I have been mounting them on a box, mounting it in the trunk and then tossing luggage in the trunk so that it makes contact with the grill cover. I have been able to break each of the previous ones, and was just not comfortable with it as a product (specifically a product that is supposed to protect something as precious as your subwoofers.
-William
My shop is building one more prototype while the other shop is building the mold for the cast version. I will send it to you and let you test it out. I have been mounting them on a box, mounting it in the trunk and then tossing luggage in the trunk so that it makes contact with the grill cover. I have been able to break each of the previous ones, and was just not comfortable with it as a product (specifically a product that is supposed to protect something as precious as your subwoofers.
-William
do i have to throw luggage at it w/ my e8a in there, too?
me no wanna poke hole in pretty sub...
well as long as they don't have a history of a sharp pointy section being driven into the sub area
-- i'll be happy to test... 
i'll even load up some groceries in the back and see how it goes for a Mr. Toad's Wild Ride... seriously though, i'm assuming that when they break at the joints, you're seeing some cracking and other signs of joint failure? is it specifically the joint binder that is failing or are you seeing signs of cracking or bending from stress concentrations? if you give me a few figures, i'd be happy to try and see if you've got a vulnerable stress concentration that could be compensated for w/ a radiused joint...
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by WLAURENT
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Most have failed due to a combination of stress on the aluminum and the joint binder. However, I believe the stress issue came first, resulting in the failure of the latter.
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Most have failed due to a combination of stress on the aluminum and the joint binder. However, I believe the stress issue came first, resulting in the failure of the latter.
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Currently the fabricator has been given creative license in resolving the problem. I hope he gets the prototypes finished this week - as I will be in Europe for business the 13th through the 28th
- William
- William
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gotcha.
thanks William.
if there is anything that you think i may be able to do... from testing to stress analysis... let me know.
just fyi, i do have the software, capabilities, and hardware to do some basic FEA modeling at home.
thanks William.
if there is anything that you think i may be able to do... from testing to stress analysis... let me know.
just fyi, i do have the software, capabilities, and hardware to do some basic FEA modeling at home.