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Old Dec 9, 2012 | 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by JUSTINTHECOASTIE
Originally Posted by yamahaSHO' timestamp='1355109593' post='22199993
There is no reason you can't tune for what you listed. I've used lesser piggyback setups on lesser cars for almost all of the above without issue.

For only an intake and exhaust, his best route would not be $2000. He doesn't have the above, period. You can look again, but he is hardly deep I to mods, making your argument irrelevant to him.
The op is looking for more power so the intake and exhaust comment you made is irrelevant. Why not suggest something that isn't limited? If your best is emanage then good for you....
I completely understand he wants more power. More power will come from the tuning the components added than they will by their selves...

It's not as limited as you think I'm not arguing which is actually better, but that you can do more with something like the Greddy.

Originally Posted by JUSTINTHECOASTIE
Originally Posted by yamahaSHO' timestamp='1355103889' post='22199847
[quote name='JUSTINTHECOASTIE' timestamp='1355103637' post='22199838']
Never said anything about boost, so you are out of line. Everything in the above statement is worthless. Itbs, stroker kit, and nitrous(100+shot) need a level of control emanage can not offer

He also never said anything about the above, so you are out of line. Everything in the above statement is worthless.


A piggyback in capable hands is capable of more than you seem to realize.


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Originally Posted by JUSTINTHECOASTIE
Read the title for "Best" not "bang for buck"
It's relative... When you factor in that he has an extremely simple that can be worked with something that is simple. KISS method; it's worked well for me given around here, the cars I've tuned have been some of the better setups with lesser/smaller parts.


Originally Posted by JUSTINTHECOASTIE
At the end of the day, his tuner has say.
Actually, at the end of the day, it is still his car and he can choose a tuner based off of what he wants.
Tuners say as far as instructing the user on how limited his set-up would be if he used a piggyback instead of ems. I went down this road already. Have you? You make it seem as if people won't mod their cars further than intake and exhaust...
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Yeah, I've been down the road of tuning a car or two. Even got some of my stickers on a car or two.

I operate on the other side of this. There is a way I like to do things and I instruct the owner of the car. I also give them my advice to what I think would make the car better for the tune they're coming in for. If they don't like it, they have other options. I also try to set them on the right path given what they say they want their end result to be (or even a stepping stone to hold them over). Chances are, I can get it without spending nearly as much as they thought they would. As long as you understand what the EMU is trying to do, you can work with it. If you're just following what a tuner says, realize that isn't the end-all answer and don't speak about it like you had the laptop in your lap trying to figure it out.


MOST people won't go into the heavy modding, however, I'm all for going past the standard intake and exhaust. The car in my sig would surprise you on the work I actually have into it and the power it puts down.

Originally Posted by DxC
Dudes... The guy is asking for personal experience. Prob for what is easy and what is not. He just got the car and mods were already done. Therefore, he hasn't modded anything himself and the first thing he is looking to do Is search for a ems. I don't understand what all this^^^ arguing is about.

No kidding.
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Old Dec 10, 2012 | 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by JUSTINTHECOASTIE
Originally Posted by DxC' timestamp='1355115523' post='22200122
Dudes... The guy is asking for personal experience. Prob for what is easy and what is not. He just got the car and mods were already done. Therefore, he hasn't modded anything himself and the first thing he is looking to do Is search for a ems. I don't understand what all this^^^ arguing is about.
Not arguing, we are having a conversation, and thanks for not answering the original post and explaining to us what we already know
Didn't mean to upset you haha. Pretty sure you could pm if you wanted to have a conversation. Seemed like the thread was immediately de-railed. I didn't offer to answer the OP be cause personally I have no experience with this car and EMSs. Good luck OP.
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