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Old Jun 6, 2011 | 04:01 PM
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You can mod the board to run an rsx or any other vehicle, but that doesnt mean you can complain to them or ask for help for using it for its unintended purpose

would it be cool if it was an option to easily run the rsx wideband? Yes, but thats not a feature of the s2k kpro

Would it be cool if the s2000 had 450+ whp? Yes, but that is not a feature of the stock honda, and if you want to mod it to do something it wasnt designed for, you are responsible for any mishaps.
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Old Jun 9, 2011 | 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Fierc3
Yeah but why is it this way.. If it's there y isn't it supported? Because the o2 sensor costs too much and rewiring is needed? Make a damn adapter already! I'll pay for it if they make it. But noooooo they gotta keep everything secret until it's officially released. /rant
As long as they do release such an adaptor then I would be happy as hell! Wideband feedback is essential to any standalone and is beyond me why it was incorporated in the first place. Cost is not a limiting factor to most of us who already paid 1700+ for the ECU and supporting mods
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Old Jun 9, 2011 | 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Andrie
What do you mean Kyushin? They expressly say this is unsupported. It's like calling Honda after you blew your motor because you add too much boost and mad cause Honda won't support you.
I was being sarcastic in that last post, my point that I am building now is that there is momentium building in support to encourage hondata, financially, to support this mod. In this capitalistic economy, im sure there has to be a target number to get them to support this feature and im fairly confident that we could easily meet that number; unfortunately, hondata is very uncooperative and unwilling to even negotiate or work with us in any fashion.

My proposal to Hondata is that IF we can meet a prescribed number of prepaid individuals to show intrest, how many would it take for them to support this feature?

If this mod became supported, it would only work in the best interests of the consumer and producer. They would gain more profit and improve community relations in reguards to care for customer needs and feedback.
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Old Jun 9, 2011 | 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by DFWs2k
You can mod the board to run an rsx or any other vehicle, but that doesnt mean you can complain to them or ask for help for using it for its unintended purpose

would it be cool if it was an option to easily run the rsx wideband? Yes, but thats not a feature of the s2k kpro

Would it be cool if the s2000 had 450+ whp? Yes, but that is not a feature of the stock honda, and if you want to mod it to do something it wasnt designed for, you are responsible for any mishaps.
Being this board was reverse engineered from the OEM; to accept wideband feedback, is what was intended. Hondata simply cut corners on this aspect due to an inaccurate preconcieved notion that it would make it too expensive.

Those of us who have chosen Hondata over AEM have done so for our own reasons, and those who have chosen Hondata, I can safely assume that cost is not a factor in the decision.
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Old Jun 9, 2011 | 06:11 PM
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I couldn't of said it ne better.
Ne updates?
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Old Jun 10, 2011 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Kyushin
Being this board was reverse engineered from the OEM; to accept wideband feedback, is what was intended. Hondata simply cut corners on this aspect due to an inaccurate preconcieved notion that it would make it too expensive.

Those of us who have chosen Hondata over AEM have done so for our own reasons, and those who have chosen Hondata, I can safely assume that cost is not a factor in the decision.
This is my last argument on this matter, as I don't really have a dog in this fight. Read again on what you write. Either if Honda reversed engineer it or not, it has become Hondata product. They choose what they want. I suggest, if you like certain feature to be included in Hondata, write a nice email to them to make them aware. Notice I said nice. Ask yourself, what makes you want to help a bitchy guy. Not trying to call you bitchy.
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Old Jun 11, 2011 | 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Fierc3
I couldn't of said it ne better.
Ne updates?
My ECU is still out for repair
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Old Jun 11, 2011 | 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by hybridsol
Originally Posted by Fierc3' timestamp='1307671862' post='20667715
I couldn't of said it ne better.
Ne updates?
My ECU is still out for repair
Goodluck with the repair!
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Old Jun 12, 2011 | 09:20 AM
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I found this on an old thread

Originally Posted by Hondata
Good widebands have an analog output. Really good widebands have two. You can feed this analog output into the ECU to eliminate the stock primary o2 sensor completely. If you have a wideband with two analog outputs you can use the first to run the car (as a simulated narrow band) and the second for datalogging (as a wideband). The AEM has one analog output, which just means that you should use the stock o2 sensor to run the ECU and the AEM output for datalogging. If you wish you could use the AEM output set to narrowband to run the ECU, but then you have no datalogging of the AF.

It makes no sense to use the RSX wideband. There's 4 wires to the S2000 O2 and 4 wires to the RSX o2, but there are wired completely differently. First, you have to know what you are doing. As soon as someone asks about wire colors I always cring. Wires have functions, not colors. The wires from the ECU to O2 sensor go through 3 connectors and 2-4 color changes for each wire. Sometimes the wire which is white at the o2 will turn green in the middle portion, and the wire which is green at the o2 will be red when it reaches the ECU. Anyhow, to wire up the RSX o2 you will need the ETM for the S2000 and ETM for the RSX, the manuals for each vehicle, the RSX o2 sensor, some wiring which will handle the heat near the exhaust, a relay, some connectors, and most importantly, the knowledge of how to do it. The above parts will cost about $300, assuming you have the manuals. For $300 you can get an aftermarket wideband which is going to be much easier to get going, has a display, and uses cheaper o2 sensors if you need to replace them. This is the logic behind our advice.
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Old Jun 12, 2011 | 11:34 AM
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Makes sense and thats what they have been saying all along.

I think eventually they will have an update and we will be able to incorporate a 3rd party wideband for lean cut and whatever else.

They come out with updates pretty frequently.
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