I'd have to drive both cars back to back to give a final answer.

 

I would have a hard time imagining how to handle a 750whp car, seems like that would be too over the top for me. Id sure give it a try though, lol.

One thing to mention is underhood temps. The turbo set up is something else. I know Scott is going to get the thermal wrap done this winter and that should help to bring it down.

I love how clean both kits are though

 

just made my decision for a turbo much harder, curse you!!!!! lol
great vid ;P

 

 

This was a cool video, especially since Mase had his hand in both of these setups.

But its really not that fair for anyone to showcase a comparison between the SOS kit vs the Mase Kit on this basis for a video. But its cool to showcase the cars setups for what they are, but please note a few things:

First, the gearing is different. Second the motor is different on a big note.
2.2L 11:1 compression Ap2 gearing vs 9:1 2.0 Ap1 gearing thats a big difference in itself.

take an ap1 and ap2. same turbo kit/same SC kit. the ap2 will kill it.

take a stock ap2 vs ap2. run the same fuel. sos vs mase kit. same tires, a good driver, all things equal. Mase Kit will kill it from a 1st gear roll.

 

dsddcd I'm not hatin on some White Zombie, lol... good shit... still cheesy for the vid tho imo Thanks for the info on the suspension set ups too. Granted it makes lil diff on a highway pull it does from a stop, but thats not the focus of this thread so I won't bother talkin ab that.

I'm fairly new to the whole boosted S2K world so I love reading people's experiences and opinions. I currently run the GT2871R and it builds boost faster than you can shake a stick at (fastest my tuners ever seen or so he said), but my top end just isn't there cuz it's obviously a small turbo. I autoX so it's perfect for that application in most regards. It actually builds boost TOO fast sometimes and WOT is therefore useless at those times so the next set up will be at least a 30R for a better balance. My point being for all that jabber is that the whole SC vs turbo crap really does depend on intended use, personal preference and driving style. I am def a turbo guy... always have been. I've owned an Audi S4, RX7 TII, 240sx w/ a KA-T, and now my S2K and WRX. SO.. I will side with the turbo 99.9% of the time. The whole idea that a SC puts drag on the motor to produce power just seems wasteful when you have a "free" source of power coming out the tailpipe.. again my opinion not arguing. These both are sick cars and props to the owners, I might need to pick Scott's (he's the turbo'd one right?) brain being that I want to hit the 450-500whp on my next set up and would like to see all that is done and how it's laid out. E85 is plentiful round here so that might be worth looking into too... hmm

Oh and I just drive up to the local Air Guard base and catch a flight on a C130 to Mexico for my highway tests.. duh.. lol.

 

No brake boosting on several of the runs, if the see the black car pull out a head from the start then it was brake boosting.

Neither were WOT shifting, for a factory trans and diff this would not be good.

The SOS is VERY nice but you will want to make sure you order the correct upgrades if you are looking for this kind of power. The short list of items includes.

1.) KPRO
2.) ID2000's
3.) Return Fuel System - Pump Hanger, Lines, Walbro, Fuel Rail, Regulator...
4.) Paxton 1500 Head Unit
5.) Pullies
6.) E85
7.) Racing Heat Exhanger
8.) Professional Tune

The above is why I did not agree on the cost of the system being less, in fact it is more than a bolt on kit like Mase's or the PTuning Kit.

 

Not more than Ptuning:

$7195+ = kit, recirc dump, hfc, exhaust, fuel

$2200 = kpro parts

$500.00 oil cooler = recommended

gauges = ?

 

Nice vid!

 

Excellent post.

Turbo's are faster every time guys.

However, I still don't see many turbo guys tracking their cars at a road course without hesitation.

I recognize that we supercharged guys give up performance. But, on this platform, few people have had success road coursing a turbo setup.

No question that turbochargers are superior to superchargers in terms of efficiency, power delivery, and power output. However, superchargers spin a shitload slower, thus generating less heat.

I'll bet on a TC S2000 at the quarter mile track every single time. However, lap both cars for an hour at any road course, give the TC car a 100hp/100tq advantage, and I'd still put my money on the supercharged car every time. Why? Because you're in boost 70% of the time on a road course. That's a shit ton of stress.

As they say, "To finish first, first one must finish."