I decided to wait to clamp the voltage with the eManage until after the car is tuned. Simply so that I can limit the things that could be causing any problems on the car. Going to larger injectors, removing the FMU, and adding the ignition harness were enough things that could cause hiccups that I don't want to throw in the voltage clamping just yet. The Missing Link is doing my voltage clamping right now, and I don't really know how it works or what voltage it gets clamped to. We'll probably have to play with the voltage clamping to get it right, which is why I don't want to do it right now.

 

Calculated load is a value computed by the ECU based on different factors. You can read it with an OBDII scan tool. It would be useful to see when the transition from lean to rich occurred. It almost sounds like the ECU is attempting to maintain a stoich mixture at the part throttle condition you're experiencing.

UL

 

How are you figuring out proper ignition timing???

As has been mentioned here, the car already has a knock sensor, which is going to be more sensitive to knock than your ear. So the only way you will ever notice detonation is if you tune the car WAY out of spec and the car is getting more detonation than the knock sensor is designed to compensate for. But if you're just a little off and getting mild detonation problems, the knock sensor will pull out timing before you ever notice - meanwhile you will basically be slowly degrading your motor.

I don't see how you can properly tune the car to run detonation-free until you tap the knock sensor and log it. Especially when you're talking about the higher rpms, where knock is harder to hear and more damaging.

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That said, once all these issues get figured out, about how much total money will it cost for the emanage and all necessary hardware to control fuel and ignition through my laptop??? I need to make sure I pick a convenience store that keeps enough money in the drawer

Anyone here looking to hire a former php programmer, currently on summer break from law school and about to finish an internship with Road & Track??? Will work for tires and track fees!

 

All I can say to that is that I'm leaving it up to a very experienced tuner, and I'm convinced that he knows how to do it. I'll try to get some answers from him to give you an idea of how he'll know what is safe (not detonating) and what is not.

From Mohdparts.com here is the eManage pricing:

E-manage + Support Tool + ignition & injector Harness = $452

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Wesmaster
[B]

All I can say to that is that I'm leaving it up to a very experienced tuner, and I'm convinced that he knows how to do it.

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by The Reverend
[B]Don't go on blind faith.

 

Wes,


Comparing the E-manage (a trois.....) to the AEM, does the EMS have any advantages over the Greddy? Besides the obvious of it being a standalone computer. I think the AEM has a higher resolution also.

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by slick rick
[B]Comparing the E-manage (a trois.....) to the AEM, does the EMS have any advantages over the Greddy?

 

Unfortunately Rev, even logging the knock sensor isn't going to help much on modern Hondas. Even in completely bone stock form, the F20C ecu is pulling out 10-12 degrees of timing at some points. Its a very unusual setup.

That's why an experienced tuner is necessary. You start off very retarded and work slowly up. Power will jump dramatically at first and then begin to level off as you near optimum timing. And then its a matter of pulling back timing a few degrees for safety, at the expense of a few hp.

UL

[QUOTE]Originally posted by The Reverend
[B]

Don't go on blind faith.

 

Yeah, but some of us start off very retarded and we just kind of stay there