FI ..now which diff
Originally Posted by RED MX5,Aug 18 2006, 11:46 AM
That's the dumbest post I've read here in months.
(Just one man's opinion.)
(Just one man's opinion.)
Originally Posted by Black Nugget,Aug 18 2006, 02:13 PM
There is no reason to try and turn this thread into a pissing match - you have your opinion, the 'tires' are the second weakest link in the S2000. A good portion of our higher horsepower cars have broken part after part in this car - we know where the weak links are and what needs to be replaced.
You can praise up and down how both you and xviper have 300whp S2000s and are still running on the stock differential, along with several others. That still does not explain the numerous other S2000 owners who have snapped their differential with far inferior setups. I've read a lot more posts and met more individuals who have had to replace their differential, than those who have had to replace their clutch.
Also, something to keep in mind too. Both yourself and xviper are running aftermarket gears - which are rated to be much stronger than that of the oem pieces.
Again, there is no need to turn this into a pissing match - you believe what you will in regards to the weaklinks of the S2000, we will stick with what we have seen, heard, and experienced. If/When your differential snaps and you are singing the other tune you can reach Ya & John at (703) 455-5805.
You can praise up and down how both you and xviper have 300whp S2000s and are still running on the stock differential, along with several others. That still does not explain the numerous other S2000 owners who have snapped their differential with far inferior setups. I've read a lot more posts and met more individuals who have had to replace their differential, than those who have had to replace their clutch.
Also, something to keep in mind too. Both yourself and xviper are running aftermarket gears - which are rated to be much stronger than that of the oem pieces.
Again, there is no need to turn this into a pissing match - you believe what you will in regards to the weaklinks of the S2000, we will stick with what we have seen, heard, and experienced. If/When your differential snaps and you are singing the other tune you can reach Ya & John at (703) 455-5805.
My concern is that we constantly see people getting paranoid about the reilability of their S2000, because of all the problems they read about here on S2kI. New owners reading this thread could easily come away with the impression that the S2000 differential is a a time bomb. Many people have gotten the idea that they can't supercharge the car (not talking turbo here) and expect the clutch or diff to survive, but in reality we have had plenty of owners do this without having any problems, and it's not becaue they all drive like wimps.

I have tried very hard to qualify my statements. With the stock driveline a high RPM clutch drop will either cause the clutch to slip or spin the tires. While this may be a fortutious accident, I am inclined to believe that it is by design.
The problem we have here is that we always hear from people who have breakage, and never from those who don't, and that gives many people the wrong impression(s). It is not BS for someone who is NOT having problems to point out his own experiences, but I feel that calling such things BS is nothing but BS.
Anyway, if you wan't people who have no problems to remain silent then you might as well ban me.
Originally Posted by Black Nugget,Aug 18 2006, 02:13 PM
There is no reason to try and turn this thread into a pissing match - you have your opinion, the 'tires' are the second weakest link in the S2000. A good portion of our higher horsepower cars have broken part after part in this car - we know where the weak links are and what needs to be replaced.
You can praise up and down how both you and xviper have 300whp S2000s and are still running on the stock differential, along with several others. That still does not explain the numerous other S2000 owners who have snapped their differential with far inferior setups. I've read a lot more posts and met more individuals who have had to replace their differential, than those who have had to replace their clutch.
Also, something to keep in mind too. Both yourself and xviper are running aftermarket gears - which are rated to be much stronger than that of the oem pieces.
Again, there is no need to turn this into a pissing match - you believe what you will in regards to the weaklinks of the S2000, we will stick with what we have seen, heard, and experienced. If/When your differential snaps and you are singing the other tune you can reach Ya & John at (703) 455-5805.
You can praise up and down how both you and xviper have 300whp S2000s and are still running on the stock differential, along with several others. That still does not explain the numerous other S2000 owners who have snapped their differential with far inferior setups. I've read a lot more posts and met more individuals who have had to replace their differential, than those who have had to replace their clutch.
Also, something to keep in mind too. Both yourself and xviper are running aftermarket gears - which are rated to be much stronger than that of the oem pieces.
Again, there is no need to turn this into a pissing match - you believe what you will in regards to the weaklinks of the S2000, we will stick with what we have seen, heard, and experienced. If/When your differential snaps and you are singing the other tune you can reach Ya & John at (703) 455-5805.
Nobody here was even having a disagreement until you popped in with your BS.
Thanks for screwing up an interesting thread.
Originally Posted by RED MX5,Aug 18 2006, 12:46 PM
That's the dumbest post I've read here in months.
(Just one man's opinion.)
(Just one man's opinion.)

fperra you may have an opinion you feel is correct, when the fact of the matter is, there is cold hard factual evidence slapping your opinion across the face. myself being one of those MANY MANY MANY who have beat the crap out of their car with launches and NEVER had a single issue with the diff.
I've owned 2 S2000's. BOTH of them saw over 1000 launches EACH. and i NEVER had trouble with the diff.
the problem is this: the line between fault of the diff and fault of the driver is blurred. because many dont know how to properly launch or drive this car, it's easy to take diff problems that should be blamed on the driver and blame them on the diff, because a couple people have had an issue with diff failure.
of the thousands upon thousands of owners of this car, this site alone, look at those with failed diffs. believe it or not, it's less than 2%. FI or not.
so, if the failure rate of this car is 2% or less just on this website of thousands of owners registered with a VIN, how is our diff weak and inadequate? so if you're going to make such a bold opinion you might want to make sure you have some facts to back it up. the evidence clearly indicates your opinion has zero merit.
that said, this thread has gone downhill enough, and there's no reason for it to continue as such.
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