you don't need 2000's on q16 unless you're making like 1500whp anyway lol

 

exactly

 

I guess i'll be upgrading to the EFI wizard 2000 since i want to run Q16 on hi boost more info http://www.honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=2712073
http://www.vadriven.com/forums/showthread.php?t=328403

 

I think they mean any fuel with MTBE, which should be specified.

 

Did Jens really say that? I'd like to know because that's not even close to the truth.

Part of what makes Injector Dynamics injectors is the dynamic matching process and detailed data provided. A set of injectors that are matched by static flow are not the same thing.

Over a batch of 200 of these injectors, there's an 8% variance in flow at 2ms, which can not be accounted for by most of the flow benches on the market.

This 8% variance, or even a 4% variance which would be about the best you could hope for with normal testing, will result in a 4% change in a/f ratio from one cylinder to the next. If that cylinder to cylinder variance didn't affect idle quality or part throttle drivability then it wouldn't be that big of a deal, but the reality is that it does.

 

THAT is the reply I was waiting for on this thread. Thanks Tony

 

Let me clarify this. The FIC 2150 injectors are the same injectors that ID uses to modify and are from Bosch. Both FIC and ID do the same thing. They purchase the injectors and flow bench match them and do whatever else it is they do and then put their name on it; ie, ID2000's and FIC Bluemax 2150's. They both have been flow matched to under 1% of eachother and I believe this is the industry standard. When you get a set of the FIC Bluemax 2150's, they will come with a flow match sheet to show you it has been done, just as ID does. I believe the only difference between the two are that the ID2000's cost $900 or so for a set and you can get the FIC 2150's for $780 a set.

Now, it's up to you whether you want to save $120 or spend an extra $120 for the same thing.

 

Great and all, except the matching is not within 1% across the operating range for both of them. We are +/- 1% across the PW range, even down to 2msec. You can not get that without matching by both flow and dead time, a static flow test will only get you injectors that flow equally when run static (full on), which is not how an engine runs.

Small variances in dead time from one injector to the next result in flow variances that become more prominent at low pulsewidths.

FIC has already admitted that their testing equipment is not even capable of measuring +/- 5% at low pulsewidths, so to claim 1% across a set of injectors is a bit of a stretch.

 

I will be running the ID2000 for my e85 setup. Tony is the man. He is always polite and puts the time in with his customers. Props to him. The extra 120 is worth it for a clean idle and low rpm driveablity.

 

Let me grab that flow testing sheet...........