Greddy Turbo Install
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Ok, let me rephrase...can one buy the turbo, install it, and drive around with no damage whatsoever to the car for the time being, while getting increased, though not optimal performance?
I may choose to tune it later on, but I am a pretty busy guy, and can take out a weekend for the install, and maybe another one 2 months later for tuning and such.
I don't however, want to damage the car/motor in any way during those two months, even if I flog it around from time to time.
I may choose to tune it later on, but I am a pretty busy guy, and can take out a weekend for the install, and maybe another one 2 months later for tuning and such.
I don't however, want to damage the car/motor in any way during those two months, even if I flog it around from time to time.
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[QUOTE=NFRs2000NYC,Feb 27 2008, 11:41 AM] Ok, let me rephrase...can one buy the turbo, install it, and drive around with no damage whatsoever to the car for the time being, while getting increased, though not optimal performance?
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From: Irvine
Originally Posted by Mr.Aqua,Feb 27 2008, 02:54 AM
The stay bracket that attaches the down pipe to the engine won't line up 
. I'm going to try a to find a way to bend the stock bracket.
. I'm going to try a to find a way to bend the stock bracket.
Originally Posted by parkerdw,Feb 27 2008, 09:03 AM
When I first started the Greddy turbo project last year all I wanted to do was slap a kit on and drive away happy, but the only kit (still not out yet) that claims to be able to offer that experience is the Kraftwerks. Unfortunately, the Kraftwerks costs a lot more than the greddy, and nobody actually has one yet outside of their design shop.
I didn't have any gauges, BOV or boost controller and my initial "tune" was virtually unchanged from the basemap. You can drive around like this, but your acceleration will not be all it could be, and I for one was really annoyed with the way I could feel the wild power curve on the street. A universal base map simply cannot yield perfect results from car to car if you don't customize it. Once you decide to get that smoothed out you will probably need a boost controller to do the job right, especially if you have modified the exhaust/cat/test pipe from stock. A blow off valve is definitely not needed but it also assists a bit going WOT and rowing the gears. You also don't "need" colder spark plugs as I drove around for weeks with the stock plugs, but the car does run a bit smoother with the colder plugs and probably safer too.
The way I look at it if you make a decision to drop 4 grand on a single product, then it's a no brainer to spend a little more to make sure its optimized for your particular car and its mods. The S2K was designed to be a high compression NA car from the first sketch they drew back in the 90s. Slapping a turbo on it is a bit of a magic trick no matter how you look at it.
My tuning sessions easily ran over $500. The blow off valve and the electronic boost controller I "chose" to use probably cost me another $500. I still want to monitor more than just my boost pressure so I'm going to have to blow more cash in the future, but this is the way it goes when you go FI.
I didn't have any gauges, BOV or boost controller and my initial "tune" was virtually unchanged from the basemap. You can drive around like this, but your acceleration will not be all it could be, and I for one was really annoyed with the way I could feel the wild power curve on the street. A universal base map simply cannot yield perfect results from car to car if you don't customize it. Once you decide to get that smoothed out you will probably need a boost controller to do the job right, especially if you have modified the exhaust/cat/test pipe from stock. A blow off valve is definitely not needed but it also assists a bit going WOT and rowing the gears. You also don't "need" colder spark plugs as I drove around for weeks with the stock plugs, but the car does run a bit smoother with the colder plugs and probably safer too.
The way I look at it if you make a decision to drop 4 grand on a single product, then it's a no brainer to spend a little more to make sure its optimized for your particular car and its mods. The S2K was designed to be a high compression NA car from the first sketch they drew back in the 90s. Slapping a turbo on it is a bit of a magic trick no matter how you look at it.
My tuning sessions easily ran over $500. The blow off valve and the electronic boost controller I "chose" to use probably cost me another $500. I still want to monitor more than just my boost pressure so I'm going to have to blow more cash in the future, but this is the way it goes when you go FI.
To recap and add in:
*1 step colder plugs = good, but not necessary at initial install.
*The manual tells you to buy 4 new gaskets before install, but you don't really need to.
*BOV is not necessary at all, but is good.
*Gauges/Boost controller not necessary, but good to have.
*Teflon tape is needed (not provided).
*As said, Basemap won't act the same on everyone's car. If it works fine on your car, great, but if not, the basemap is a huge jump start for the tuner.
[QUOTE=devs2k,Feb 27 2008, 09:47 AM] i would only feel comfortable driving without a custom tune with the setup greddy had when they designed their base map.. IIRC, with stock cat and 80mm exhaust (single??)
there is a great tuner who is really experienced with the emanage ultimate coming down to NJ to do some local tuning.. he has a portable dyno (dynapack).. he's doing to tune my turbo
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Originally Posted by Mr.Aqua,Feb 27 2008, 10:14 AM
ya that's what I meant. Its about 1/2 inch off for the holes to line up.
Originally Posted by devs2k,Feb 27 2008, 10:20 AM
Chris Lum, was it a single or dual 80mm?
nevermind, i see you wrote single
nevermind, i see you wrote single
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Hi Chris I think I tried it both ways.. but I'll take it off and try to flip it around the other way when I do the exhaust. Another question do I take off the orange wrapper that is around part of the turbo or does that stay on?
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devs2k,
Here's a link to some dyno's that Mavrik motorsports did last weekend on their dyno day.
https://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=562100
Here's a link to some dyno's that Mavrik motorsports did last weekend on their dyno day.
https://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=562100
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Originally Posted by kix,Feb 27 2008, 12:45 PM
devs2k,
Here's a link to some dyno's that Mavrik motorsports did last weekend on their dyno day.
https://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=562100
Here's a link to some dyno's that Mavrik motorsports did last weekend on their dyno day.
https://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=562100
well the stock AP2 w/highflow cat pulled 173HP 119TQ so i still made a pretty good gain over stock
these numbers are important, because they are the delta; you can copy the following in your dyno post if you want to show what the greddy kit really did for a stock ap2..
stock hp:173
greddy hp: 255
+82
stock tq: 119
greddy tq: 171
+52