Originally Posted by Chris_Lum,May 7 2007, 12:32 AM

So that is $1945.00 retail dollars BEFORE tuning. Grand total is (5599.00+1945.00) roughly $7544.00 (before tuning costs) for the Inlinepro kit to be as complete as the GReddy kit. I didn't account for the BOV that inline has, but lets say a BOV is only worth a couple hundred.

Originally Posted by smirfs2k05,May 7 2007, 04:33 PM

actually hp=rpm x torque / 5252

Originally Posted by Chris_Lum,May 7 2007, 01:32 AM

So i just came up on the inlinepro kit group buy and was able to see all the prices listed out.....Retail to retail. Not bashing on the inline kit, as it looks pretty nice, just listing it out for those who are comparing the greddy to the inlinepro kit.

Inlinepro kit retails for 3995.00
GReddy kit retails for 5599.00

Both have fuel pumps, intercoolers, downpipes, and piping...

Extra parts & costs that you need when buying the inlinepro kit so that it is AS complete as the GReddy kit (GReddy kit has these parts included in their kit) (These are costs that Inlinepro lists on their very own GB thread):

Fuel management: AEM EMS: $1395
Injectors: $295
Injector clip set: $45
Oil Filter Relocation kit: $200
Tune: $$$ will vary on your location

So that is $1945.00 retail dollars BEFORE tuning. Grand total is (5599.00+1945.00) roughly $7544.00 (before tuning costs) for the Inlinepro kit to be as complete as the GReddy kit. I didn't account for the BOV that inline has, but lets say a BOV is only worth a couple hundred.

Main differences are:

Different turbos obviously
GReddy has Emanage ULtimate ($680) & Plug n play harness ($200), vs. AEM EMS option at inlinepro
GReddy has SUS tubular manifold vs. Inline cast iron manifold
GReddy has internal WG, vs. inline external WG.
GReddy kit does not include a BOV, inlinepro does.

Notes:
*If i read correctly, inlinepro kit also gets rid of the airpump and some other sensors, which the CEL can only be turned off w/ the AEM EMS. GReddy kit keeps all factory hardware and sensors intact, all while using a piggyback, which is why it has a VERY good chance of getting CARB approval.

*GReddy kit is pretuned, meaning R&D time (in tuning) was put into the kit (which isn't free of course). This time spent IS reflected in the price of the kit, b/c time is money. If this were just a hardware kit like the Inlinepro kit, then it could have been released when it debuted at SEMA in '06 and retail would be lower.

*Of course, the Inlinepro kit makes more power out of the box (after you get it tuned), it's up to the buyer to decide if it is worth the extra $2000.00+ dollars)

So again, i have nothing personal against the Inlinepro Kit, it looks great, and i'm sure it performs great as well, this was mainly for those who are shopping and comparing the two, not fully knowing the differences between the two. And these are retail prices, we all know BOTH kits can be had for lower than retail, but it's only fair to compare retail prices.

So the Inlinepro kit has more potential for power and growth, while the GReddy kit is more complete, has more potential to be a better daily driver choice and chance of CARB approval.

Like i said before, these two kits are apples and oranges, they are aimed for slightly different groups within the s2000 community, but this is mainly a cost comparison.

I do however still believe that the GReddy kit is more of a complete kit out of the box, AND more of a user friendly kit (as greddy is known for), one that can be installed and driven within a day or two. No need to worry about CEL's, towing your car to get it tuned, cost of tuning, or complicated installs.

Originally Posted by Chris_Lum,May 6 2007, 10:32 PM

So i just came up on the inlinepro kit group buy and was able to see all the prices listed out.....Retail to retail. Not bashing on the inline kit, as it looks pretty nice, just listing it out for those who are comparing the greddy to the inlinepro kit.

Inlinepro kit retails for 3995.00
GReddy kit retails for 5599.00

Both have fuel pumps, intercoolers, downpipes, and piping...

Extra parts & costs that you need when buying the inlinepro kit so that it is AS complete as the GReddy kit (GReddy kit has these parts included in their kit) (These are costs that Inlinepro lists on their very own GB thread):

Fuel management: AEM EMS: $1395
Injectors: $295
Injector clip set: $45
Oil Filter Relocation kit: $200
Tune: $$$ will vary on your location

So that is $1945.00 retail dollars BEFORE tuning. Grand total is (5599.00+1945.00) roughly $7544.00 (before tuning costs) for the Inlinepro kit to be as complete as the GReddy kit. I didn't account for the BOV that inline has, but lets say a BOV is only worth a couple hundred.

Main differences are:

Different turbos obviously
GReddy has Emanage ULtimate ($680) & Plug n play harness ($200), vs. AEM EMS option at inlinepro
GReddy has SUS tubular manifold vs. Inline cast iron manifold
GReddy has internal WG, vs. inline external WG.
GReddy kit does not include a BOV, inlinepro does.

Notes:
*If i read correctly, inlinepro kit also gets rid of the airpump and some other sensors, which the CEL can only be turned off w/ the AEM EMS. GReddy kit keeps all factory hardware and sensors intact, all while using a piggyback, which is why it has a VERY good chance of getting CARB approval.

*GReddy kit is pretuned, meaning R&D time (in tuning) was put into the kit (which isn't free of course). This time spent IS reflected in the price of the kit, b/c time is money. If this were just a hardware kit like the Inlinepro kit, then it could have been released when it debuted at SEMA in '06 and retail would be lower.

*Of course, the Inlinepro kit makes more power out of the box (after you get it tuned), it's up to the buyer to decide if it is worth the extra $2000.00+ dollars)

So again, i have nothing personal against the Inlinepro Kit, it looks great, and i'm sure it performs great as well, this was mainly for those who are shopping and comparing the two, not fully knowing the differences between the two. And these are retail prices, we all know BOTH kits can be had for lower than retail, but it's only fair to compare retail prices.

So the Inlinepro kit has more potential for power and growth, while the GReddy kit is more complete, has more potential to be a better daily driver choice and chance of CARB approval.

Like i said before, these two kits are apples and oranges, they are aimed for slightly different groups within the s2000 community, but this is mainly a cost comparison.

I do however still believe that the GReddy kit is more of a complete kit out of the box, AND more of a user friendly kit (as greddy is known for), one that can be installed and driven within a day or two. No need to worry about CEL's, towing your car to get it tuned, cost of tuning, or complicated installs.

Originally Posted by ChefJ,May 7 2007, 07:22 AM

Its not really apples to apples when you are saying that you have to have an AEM EMS with the inline kit.

AEM EMS 1200-1400
Greddy Emanage 250-400

I have an inline pro kit and have the emanage. that alone brings the cost down dramatically.

Originally Posted by Chris_Lum,May 7 2007, 11:09 AM

Good point! i was mainly thinking about the EMS because most people here like to go with that since it isn't a piggyback. Eventhough the Ultimate is VERY good already. What did you do about the airpump removal using the emanage? Are you just running around with a CEL?

But yeah, the reason i say apples to oranges is because for some reason a lot of people comparing the two kits look at peak numbers for some reason, AND they really look at the wastegate int vs. ext differences. It wasn't just a note on the fuel management, which IS a big factor though as well.