I think you should start another thread comparing superchargers and turbo’s, it sounds basic but I think it would help you understand better what you are going to get.

You have to understand how a supercharger and turbo work before you can answer that. A supercharger is belt driven and runs at a fixed speed for any given RPM based on the pulley size you choose. Obviously the faster it spins the more air it can deliver within its operating range. A turbo on the other hand is driven by the exhaust flow, but unlike a supercharger it is able to bypass the turbine wheel through the waste gate allowing for operation at the wastegate pressure setting. This is where a boost controller comes into play, which is included with Mase’s kit. By bleeding off some of the pressure on the wastegate and using a very low pressure spring you can modulate the boost from spring pressure to the highest amount the turbocharger can produce, or your engine can handle. This control means that you can make your dyno look exactly like a supercharger, you can raise and lower the boost by RPM, Speed…… There is a huge amount of variables.

The biggest point I am trying to make is if you want reliability turn off the boost controller and run 5-6PSI then when you want more flip your high boost switch and you have 8,10,12…….PSI waiting for you. So everything being said the KW kit would surely be harder on the car than the Mase kit b/c you can run less boost when you are tooling around and more when you need it.

As for reinforcement, No & Yes, with Mase’s kit there are literally hundreds of turbo’s available to use, unlike the (1) head unit you are stuck with on the KW kit. Let’s just say Joe 1 wants a super fast spool, is using a stock engine and only want 250-500WHP then Mase will use a 5857 and you are set for anywhere in that range. Now Joe 2 can’t get enough power then he might opt for a 6262 or larger and shoot for 450-700WHP, now if you get to the top end of that goal you will defiantly have to think about reinforcement.

Good Luck

 

[QUOTE=KewlWhip,Apr 12 2010, 04:54 PM] I'll do the same....

I'm not going to speak for all KW owners like some other people that don't have the kit, but this is my experience.

I sold my kit before it started having issues cuz I saw too many people that I new personally have issues.

 

Wow, I thought I read some ridiculous crap from you, but this may be the biggest load yet.

Good job in setting new standards for bullshit.

 

Keep it nice guys!

The best form of boost control is your right foot.

And the best device to ensure drive train reliability is the one on your shoulders.

And please don't look at my history or you'll realise that my head and my foot have at times been defective.

Now, onto the topic:
I find it amusing that some people are asserting as a benefit the fact that a supercharger provides limited upgradeability and less mid range torque (ie, less potential for drivetrain abuse). By this logic surely the ultimate mod is the replace the F20C with the engine from a Ford Model T.

Yes Kraftwerk has had problems (their second album was a shocker ) but I think we can safely assume they have ironed them out.

Yes, an unrestricted Mase kit with unrestricted abusive driving will ruin your drivetrain (quicker than KW and quicker than stock). But a mild kit that outperforms a Kw kit and driven sensibly is a wonder to behold.

 

[QUOTE=Mother,Apr 12 2010, 07:38 PM] Wow, I thought I read some ridiculous crap from you, but this may be the biggest load yet.

 

I love it, I am going to start using that one.

 

You're welcome!

 

I never suggested it was possible for one to be better for your drivetrain than the other.

To suggest that argument either way is completely idiotic, which is why your post was ridiculous.

As Aus said (and you quoted, apparently without realizing the meaning), your right foot provides boost control. I could drive a Kraftwerks (or any other supercharger) equipped car around for weeks without getting into positive boost if I wanted to, and be very gentle on the drivetrain just the same as you could drive a turbo car gently.

My post wasn't arguing anything about one being better than the other, it was just pointing out that your post had the potential to make everone who read it slightly dumber.

 

Oh, forgot...

 

The funny thing is, mine has no issues as well, and is stock. Hmmm