Rotrex C38 Kraftwerks log
@Kraftwerks
Can you please tell the poor folks who bought your kits some details about the pulley system? You know what I mean. Tell us the truth this time.
How many Rotrex kits were sent incomplete? There is a nice tabulation on another site showing clearly that missing parts are business as usual at KW. From all the S2000 owners I've also gotten a glimpse that this is true in the S2000 community as well.
Can you please tell the poor folks who bought your kits some details about the pulley system? You know what I mean. Tell us the truth this time.
How many Rotrex kits were sent incomplete? There is a nice tabulation on another site showing clearly that missing parts are business as usual at KW. From all the S2000 owners I've also gotten a glimpse that this is true in the S2000 community as well.
Also, the cogged belt and belt tension has been an issue. As KW said to me verbally, you have to adjust belt tension to 75hz on the longest unsupported length of belt when not running. I used the Conti Tension 2 Go smart phone app to adjust the tension. This is about 3/8" clearance between the mounting plate and tension pulley slide block.
Lastly, apparently the supercharger and crank pulleys were machined with a profile that did not exactly match the Gates Twinpower double-sided cogged belt cogs (teeth). KW sent me newly machined pulleys, which have the correct cog profile to match the belt (I checked it myself) and I will install these newly machined pulleys tomorrow.
Other than these issues, the kit is running very well on the car. I am hoping to dyno the car in April when my weekend schedules are more slack.
I was only hoping for 400 rear whp on this setup, as I do not want to beef up any other components on the car. I think KW has worked out all of the bugs at this point, and I will be happy if the new pulleys work properly.
Lastly, apparently the supercharger and crank pulleys were machined with a profile that did not exactly match the Gates Twinpower double-sided cogged belt cogs (teeth). KW sent me newly machined pulleys, which have the correct cog profile to match the belt (I checked it myself) and I will install these newly machined pulleys tomorrow.
We've been very transparent in the process of helping the few customers that have had issues. We made "cvjoint" numerous offers and he refused all of them and proceeded to contact his credit card company, rather than getting a refund from the dealer he purchased it from. Again, we all enjoy cars here at Kraftwerks, so we recognize how much of "bummer" it can be when you don't have everything you need.
How can you even say that? Why would I go through my credit card company if a refund was available? It makes absolutely no sense. You don't want to take responsibility for shipping incomplete and misengineered product. The dealer doesn't want to accept returns. No one wants to pay the cost for the shortcomings of the kit. The customer is stuck absorbing your R&D expense and inventory shortage costs. We should all drive around with a tool set and spare belts until you decide to complete the work on this kit. I asked for a return address and you said you'd kick the kit back if it showed up at your doorstep. This kit is the dealer's problem because I bought it from him is what you said.
They still never answered my original question either. Can you get a pulley that offers more boost? If you guys think the F-series can't handle more than 11psi, you are wrong. If you offer a 91 as an option, +11 psi is needed to take advantage of the bigger blower.
@Redline S2k, at this exact moment there are two pulleys that have been machined for S2000 kits, a 70mm and a 80mm. If you are looking to purchase an 00-03 AP1 kit, you will have the option of getting a 75mm pulley or a 70mm pulley, both of which will require you to lower you engine redline. If you have an 04-05 AP1 or a 06-09 AP2 there will be a 67mm pulley available also.
There has been a lot said in this thread, we weren't ignoring or dodging your question "Redline S2K"...
There has been a lot said in this thread, we weren't ignoring or dodging your question "Redline S2K"...
Originally Posted by KraftWerks' timestamp='1395677630' post='23078293
We've been very transparent in the process of helping the few customers that have had issues. We made "cvjoint" numerous offers and he refused all of them and proceeded to contact his credit card company, rather than getting a refund from the dealer he purchased it from. Again, we all enjoy cars here at Kraftwerks, so we recognize how much of "bummer" it can be when you don't have everything you need.
Originally Posted by cvjoint' timestamp='1395740923' post='23079827
[quote name='KraftWerks' timestamp='1395677630' post='23078293']We've been very transparent in the process of helping the few customers that have had issues. We made "cvjoint" numerous offers and he refused all of them and proceeded to contact his credit card company, rather than getting a refund from the dealer he purchased it from. Again, we all enjoy cars here at Kraftwerks, so we recognize how much of "bummer" it can be when you don't have everything you need.
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There's always two sides to every story. Well I applaud you KW for trying to make things right.
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@Redline S2k, at this exact moment there are two pulleys that have been machined for S2000 kits, a 70mm and a 80mm. If you are looking to purchase an 00-03 AP1 kit, you will have the option of getting a 75mm pulley or a 70mm pulley, both of which will require you to lower you engine redline. If you have an 04-05 AP1 or a 06-09 AP2 there will be a 67mm pulley available also.
There has been a lot said in this thread, we weren't ignoring or dodging your question "Redline S2K"...
There has been a lot said in this thread, we weren't ignoring or dodging your question "Redline S2K"...
Is the blower at max rpm out of the box?
Originally Posted by KraftWerks' timestamp='1395791048' post='23081104
@Redline S2k, at this exact moment there are two pulleys that have been machined for S2000 kits, a 70mm and a 80mm. If you are looking to purchase an 00-03 AP1 kit, you will have the option of getting a 75mm pulley or a 70mm pulley, both of which will require you to lower you engine redline. If you have an 04-05 AP1 or a 06-09 AP2 there will be a 67mm pulley available also.
There has been a lot said in this thread, we weren't ignoring or dodging your question "Redline S2K"...
There has been a lot said in this thread, we weren't ignoring or dodging your question "Redline S2K"...
Is the blower at max rpm out of the box?
Its my conclusion that most would not find this a worthy option, the motor needs to rev high to be in its efficiency range and make the most out of the sc, with the ap1 being the highest example of this as its the "peakyiest" motor. NOW if you were say running one of the 2.4/2.7 stroker kits, THEN running a smaller mated pulley to that displacement/rev limit would make sense becuase the motor already demands a lower rev limit, shifting its efficiency down in the powerband, so MATCHING the blowers peak efficiency to that engines redline would make sense in this case, and that's what its all about with any of these F motors, matching the blowers efficiency/rpm peak to the engines natural power curve peak.
@Redline S2k, at this exact moment there are two pulleys that have been machined for S2000 kits, a 70mm and a 80mm. If you are looking to purchase an 00-03 AP1 kit, you will have the option of getting a 75mm pulley or a 70mm pulley, both of which will require you to lower you engine redline. If you have an 04-05 AP1 or a 06-09 AP2 there will be a 67mm pulley available also.
There has been a lot said in this thread, we weren't ignoring or dodging your question "Redline S2K"...
There has been a lot said in this thread, we weren't ignoring or dodging your question "Redline S2K"...







