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Old Feb 24, 2011 | 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by metros,Feb 24 2011, 09:24 PM
Let's settle the turbo vs. sc debate once and for all.

*link to DRAG RACING turbo s2000 vs. sc s2000*
For those that haven't seen that, Turbo FTW.

IMO simplifying your FI set up = increased reliability. Take that how you will.
Let's settle the turbo vs. sc debate once and for all.

*link to roadcourse tracking turbo s2000 vs sc s2000*
For those that haven't seen that, SC FTW.

IMO simplifying your FI set up = increased reliability. Take that how you will.
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Old Feb 24, 2011 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by sparrow,Feb 24 2011, 08:40 PM
Let's settle the turbo vs. sc debate once and for all.

*link to roadcourse tracking turbo s2000 vs sc s2000*
For those that haven't seen that, SC FTW.

IMO simplifying your FI set up = increased reliability. Take that how you will.
I'd come out and see this between you two
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Old Feb 24, 2011 | 05:29 PM
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This is a twisties/road course debate, not drag racing. I'll be the first to admit a Turbo makes the most sense on a 4 banger in this regard. You turbo guys will have a hard time selling one to a Top Fuel v8 guy though. There is a reason why these are the fastest in this configuration/application, sorry.
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Old Feb 24, 2011 | 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by s2000Junky,Feb 24 2011, 09:29 PM
This is a twisties/road course debate, not drag racing. I'll be the first to admit a Turbo makes the most sense on a 4 banger in this regard. You turbo guys will have a hard time selling one to a Top Fuel v8 guy though. There is a reason why these are the fastest in this configuration/application, sorry.
I said what i just said because i know the both of them lol. It would be fun to watch the SOS go against the Ptuning kit
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Old Feb 24, 2011 | 05:32 PM
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is the top fuel v8 guy going in the twisties? or using a sc?
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Old Feb 24, 2011 | 05:35 PM
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I heard through the grapevine that Toan is contacting DSport to see if they are interested in another s2k FI shootout and Ptuning is gonna submit an entry for competition.

Thats what i hear anyways
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Old Feb 24, 2011 | 05:37 PM
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SC is less abusive on your engine for several reasons then a Turbo of the same boost. One, becuase it produces less heat, Two is sees max boost for a very brief period of time at red line only, and third there is less load on engine internals from the lack of boost/trq under the curve. It is going to substantially increase the life of a well tuned motor making 13psi at 9k then a well tuned motor producing the same psi at 4k to redline.
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Old Feb 24, 2011 | 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by s2000Junky,Feb 24 2011, 09:37 PM
SC is less abusive on your engine for several reasons then a Turbo of the same boost. One, becuase it produces less heat, Two is sees max boost for a very brief period of time at red line only and third there is less load on engine internals from the lack of boost/trq under the curve. Its is going to substantially increase the life of a well tuned motor making 13psi at 9k then a well tuned motor producing the same psi at 4k to redline.
i see A LOT of v8's using more turbo's than SC's. not debating. Just sayin.
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Old Feb 24, 2011 | 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by HMFIC,Feb 24 2011, 06:40 PM
i see A LOT of v8's using more turbo's than SC's. not debating. Just sayin.
I'm not debating this one way or another, just stating the facts. Every set up has benefits and compromises, if someone understand the facts of what those are, then they can make an aware decision on what they want for themselves.
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Old Feb 24, 2011 | 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by s2000Junky,Feb 24 2011, 09:44 PM
I'm not debating this one way or another, just stating the facts. Every set up has benefits and compromises, if someone understand the facts of what those are, then they can make an aware decision on what they want for themselves.
I understand this. But who are you trying to educate? anybody that is listening? because what you say is the obvious.

To say you see how the turbo's benefit the 4 cylinders more but not so much the v8 folks when a lot of the v8 drag folks run turbo's just shows what more is favored. Thats why i was asking you about the top fuel v8 in the twisties.

Its not just limited to the 4 cylinder folks.

If SC's are that much more effiicient and and less abusive, all the turbo/twin turbo cars from factory would be sc'd. From what i see, that's not the case.

I am in no way saying a sc is bad or even not suited for any applications. I favor both. But from reading almost all of your responses, you are so biased towards SC's and not being open minded to turbo's at all.

I for one told Sparrow *best friend* that if i had never went turbo, the SOS kit would be the kit i would get especially if i had an 06...mainly because of the hondata which is a wonderful thing for tuning btw.

So you see, i'm not competing with you, i'm understanding you. Just wished you would not be so defensive.
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