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Originally Posted by HunterEz,Oct 10 2005, 11:15 PM
Riiiight... Carbon fiber, along with many other composites are known for their property of not retaining heat. Look at the ITB boxes raging from all levels of formula cars to airboxes found on Ferraris, Porsche's and the Mclaren F1. Want more proof look at the Composite tiles on the bottom of a Space shuttle. Composites such as Carbon fiber and Kevlar serve much more of a purpose then just being cool looking and expensive. They have properties that far surpass those of metal alone.
This has nothing to do with being JDM. The only reason why it's made in Japan? THEY HAVE THE SUPPORT FOR IT. What do we call racing here? The drama of Nascar and dumbass drivers running infront of cars driving at 200mph? Give me a break. The grass roots of racing in Japan and Europe are so much bigger then it is here, they can support the kind of creative thinking and engineering improvements that racing brings about. Don't bring this "JDM" bullshit reason into it. It's only JDM because we're all too stupid out here in the big bad US.
This has nothing to do with being JDM. The only reason why it's made in Japan? THEY HAVE THE SUPPORT FOR IT. What do we call racing here? The drama of Nascar and dumbass drivers running infront of cars driving at 200mph? Give me a break. The grass roots of racing in Japan and Europe are so much bigger then it is here, they can support the kind of creative thinking and engineering improvements that racing brings about. Don't bring this "JDM" bullshit reason into it. It's only JDM because we're all too stupid out here in the big bad US.
I do agree with you about the so called "racing" that we seem to have here in america. It's complete BS, but again as much as I hate nascar and what not, I do hav respect for them because it takes lots of skill to do what they do for those long periods of time. If this "JDM" thing is such BS then why is it everytime someone posts a certain pachage they got, everyone starts comenting with "oooo true JDM bling?"
Honstly though why did you buy you're 2g intake? did you buy it becuse it would have you better gains over somehing like an AEM? I bet's lots of money you didn't and that most of your interest in buying it was because of i's bling factor.
sure a long tube gets you hp/tq..but where??? below vtec. UMMMM..at high rpm's..they do VERY little.
the Mugen which was desinged and tested in a wind tunnel(winds a hell of a lot faster than the car can go BTW) was the way the Honda engineers found to be the best way to get air when the car needs it most. 6-9K.
this intake works on the principles of an intake for a f1 car. they rev to 19k..gee I wonder why the dont run a 150 dollar metal pipe and a filter.
the Mugen,J's, ASM are true works of art.
I think the ASM piece is beautiful. I also like that a new JDM intake is on 1 of our cars.
oh 1 last thing. Several s2000 owners have the tube intake..you know what.. it looks cheap and destroys the engine bay.. the Mugen, J's, ASM cover the frame bar, look like they were purposefully designed for the car(They WERE). The tube.. yeah, every car on earth has a tube intake(AEM).. and Im sure COUNTLESS engineering hours went in to designing a long tube.
medicalstudent...great piece..Im looking forwrd to the report!
the Mugen which was desinged and tested in a wind tunnel(winds a hell of a lot faster than the car can go BTW) was the way the Honda engineers found to be the best way to get air when the car needs it most. 6-9K.
this intake works on the principles of an intake for a f1 car. they rev to 19k..gee I wonder why the dont run a 150 dollar metal pipe and a filter.
the Mugen,J's, ASM are true works of art.
I think the ASM piece is beautiful. I also like that a new JDM intake is on 1 of our cars.
oh 1 last thing. Several s2000 owners have the tube intake..you know what.. it looks cheap and destroys the engine bay.. the Mugen, J's, ASM cover the frame bar, look like they were purposefully designed for the car(They WERE). The tube.. yeah, every car on earth has a tube intake(AEM).. and Im sure COUNTLESS engineering hours went in to designing a long tube.
medicalstudent...great piece..Im looking forwrd to the report!
As far a looking cheap......... I don't see how this looks cheap. Yes having arbon fiber looks better, but who cars. What's your overall purpose at the end of modding your car. Yes to some it's the bling, but to most it'sfor the gains. buy a cover f you don't like th bar showing. I'll stay with my V2, cover the frame showing, hav better gains then your inake, and still have a lot more money left over for further mods.
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Originally Posted by turbo_pwr,Oct 11 2005, 10:56 AM
I wonder if in the realm of things how much time had elapsed between when you signed up and me. Shit, I was on dial-up when I signed up! 
BTW, 5ft box? They didn't save you anything on shipping that's for sure.
BTW, 5ft box? They didn't save you anything on shipping that's for sure.
I bet it was like less than a minute.
Hey Dan, relax, we both beat Rick!
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ASM intake list price: $3,412.50
ASM intake sale price: $$3,071.25
Money saved buying ASM intake: $341.25
knowing you have something that very few have, and everybody wants:
PRICELESS
nice piece man!~!
ASM intake sale price: $$3,071.25
Money saved buying ASM intake: $341.25
knowing you have something that very few have, and everybody wants:
PRICELESS
nice piece man!~!
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Originally Posted by Jaydem,Oct 11 2005, 03:16 PM
ASM intake list price: $3,412.50
ASM intake sale price: $$3,071.25
Money saved buying ASM intake: $341.25
knowing you have something that very few have, and everybody wants:
PRICELESS
nice piece man!~!
ASM intake sale price: $$3,071.25
Money saved buying ASM intake: $341.25
knowing you have something that very few have, and everybody wants:
PRICELESS
nice piece man!~!
..........for those hating all over the place!!!!!!!-Chris
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Originally Posted by Jaydem,Oct 11 2005, 07:16 AM
ASM intake list price: $3,412.50
ASM intake sale price: $$3,071.25
Money saved buying ASM intake: $341.25
knowing you have something that very few have, and everybody wants:
PRICELESS
nice piece man!~!
ASM intake sale price: $$3,071.25
Money saved buying ASM intake: $341.25
knowing you have something that very few have, and everybody wants:
PRICELESS
nice piece man!~!
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From: Daphne AL
I have been reading through all this and I just had to chime in with my .02. I think the intake is badass! I also love the mugen and J's intakes. They are nice, not (as mentioned above) because they are JDM. Because they are well thought out designs and they look nice. BUT... $3000 for an intake is CRAZY! More power to those that have the money to spend on it. I don't, and if I did I could never justify it. But that's me.
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Holy Shit.
For the 1st time in my life I can actually say something that is always said to me!!
Spell checker is your friend!!!!!
As far as your points.
Im sure tubes give you power below, BUT.. in the laws of physics, as something continues to rev, it needs more air. At 100mph, there is NO ram effect,condensed air..it is grabbing air but with not pressure. Fine for low RPM, but up top..nada.
You can not dyno a ram air, unless yuou have a minimum of 50 million(Toyota F1 is building a 2nd wind tunnel in Cologne Germany.. its a 50% scale tunnel..80 million) dollars to build a to scale wind tunnel.. no K-Mart fan is going to blow that much wind.
I never said I think tubes are shit..
All Im saying is.. these intakes are designed to make the car BETTER WHERE they need it.
example:
the s2000 is not a drag car right? So what does getting you 10 hp do, when at the time your are creating LESS than 100 ft/pd of T AND HP??.. But at 6-9 K.. Ill be my left arm and your testicles, the Mugen, J's, ASM are creating 10HP, where the tubes are creating..ZERO to 1. The point is.. 10 is noting below VTEC, but Above its WHERE THE CAR NEEDS AIR.. your giving power where it does in reality no good.
And as i said.. the tube is F****** UGLY. And since the s2000 is a hand built car, I dont think putting a tube that is the same sized tube that is on a neon, sentra, tundra, caviler, focus, etc etc etc. is fitting to a puriest car.
If you cant afford 1200-3500 for an intake, but you can afford 200, then its a good mod, but it is a bit ridiculous to say without fact that your 150 tube create same or more than an ENGINEERED by ENGINEERS(and not wanna be park rangers, thermo dynamic engineers, and etc, using a 55 million dollar(modern price, 120) wind tuinnel(they use the Honda wind tunnel) Not a 15000 dyno.
Of course your entitled to your opinion. Just dont bust balls of those that had or were willing to but the BEST for the car.
Its funny, SO many times of the past 5 yr and 1 day, guys like you will insult us that spend real money trying to get the most and best from a car that is goddamn impossible to extract strong numbers from.
But in the same time period, I have never read a post by one of us who have a M, J, ASM intake and said:
your intake is garbage, i could hyave bought a 50 dollar K&N and went to home depot and got some laundry pipe and built one for 54.75.ETC ETC ETC
so put it this way:
when Honda F1, or even Minardi(now Red Bull B team) start running a tube with a filter, instead of a hole the size of a canteloupe where as the car excelerates it RAMS NOT sucks air.. i will gladly sell my Mugen and by a tube. Till then, wind tunnel, and 2 years worth of R&D vs well all we have to do is make the pipe 6 inches longer and throw a extra bent, and the dodge neon intke bolts right up to the s2000 and holy shit, we got 8-10 hp tq on dyno.. masterpiece
For the 1st time in my life I can actually say something that is always said to me!!
Spell checker is your friend!!!!!
As far as your points.
Im sure tubes give you power below, BUT.. in the laws of physics, as something continues to rev, it needs more air. At 100mph, there is NO ram effect,condensed air..it is grabbing air but with not pressure. Fine for low RPM, but up top..nada.
You can not dyno a ram air, unless yuou have a minimum of 50 million(Toyota F1 is building a 2nd wind tunnel in Cologne Germany.. its a 50% scale tunnel..80 million) dollars to build a to scale wind tunnel.. no K-Mart fan is going to blow that much wind.
I never said I think tubes are shit..
All Im saying is.. these intakes are designed to make the car BETTER WHERE they need it.
example:
the s2000 is not a drag car right? So what does getting you 10 hp do, when at the time your are creating LESS than 100 ft/pd of T AND HP??.. But at 6-9 K.. Ill be my left arm and your testicles, the Mugen, J's, ASM are creating 10HP, where the tubes are creating..ZERO to 1. The point is.. 10 is noting below VTEC, but Above its WHERE THE CAR NEEDS AIR.. your giving power where it does in reality no good.
And as i said.. the tube is F****** UGLY. And since the s2000 is a hand built car, I dont think putting a tube that is the same sized tube that is on a neon, sentra, tundra, caviler, focus, etc etc etc. is fitting to a puriest car.
If you cant afford 1200-3500 for an intake, but you can afford 200, then its a good mod, but it is a bit ridiculous to say without fact that your 150 tube create same or more than an ENGINEERED by ENGINEERS(and not wanna be park rangers, thermo dynamic engineers, and etc, using a 55 million dollar(modern price, 120) wind tuinnel(they use the Honda wind tunnel) Not a 15000 dyno.
Of course your entitled to your opinion. Just dont bust balls of those that had or were willing to but the BEST for the car.
Its funny, SO many times of the past 5 yr and 1 day, guys like you will insult us that spend real money trying to get the most and best from a car that is goddamn impossible to extract strong numbers from.
But in the same time period, I have never read a post by one of us who have a M, J, ASM intake and said:
your intake is garbage, i could hyave bought a 50 dollar K&N and went to home depot and got some laundry pipe and built one for 54.75.ETC ETC ETC
so put it this way:
when Honda F1, or even Minardi(now Red Bull B team) start running a tube with a filter, instead of a hole the size of a canteloupe where as the car excelerates it RAMS NOT sucks air.. i will gladly sell my Mugen and by a tube. Till then, wind tunnel, and 2 years worth of R&D vs well all we have to do is make the pipe 6 inches longer and throw a extra bent, and the dodge neon intke bolts right up to the s2000 and holy shit, we got 8-10 hp tq on dyno.. masterpiece
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Originally Posted by medicalstudent,Oct 10 2005, 07:01 PM
The last time I went for my wallet, it tried to attack me
Living in a hospital is one way to do it. My way is to marry another doc who makes more.
I am married to another doc, but can't see myself spending that much
Pls. post pics when installed.
