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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Bryan@BerkTechnology.com,Oct 24 2007, 03:22 AM
Our Superflow bench test data shows that THIS cat flows 87% as well as a test pipe vs. 43% for the OEM Cat.
I am confused at this statement.

I understand the first part, it flows 87% as well as a test pipe would. But, the second part, are you saying it flows 43% better than an OEM cat?

And what year s2k was the testing done on?
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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 08:36 AM
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Dynos please.
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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by pininfarina456,Oct 24 2007, 09:28 AM
I am confused at this statement.

I understand the first part, it flows 87% as well as a test pipe would. But, the second part, are you saying it flows 43% better than an OEM cat?

And what year s2k was the testing done on?
I too am wondering about this statement. I think what we all are looking for is if it flows any better than the OEM cat, since it's considered high-flow anyways.
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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by pininfarina456,Oct 24 2007, 08:28 AM
I am confused at this statement.

I understand the first part, it flows 87% as well as a test pipe would. But, the second part, are you saying it flows 43% better than an OEM cat?

And what year s2k was the testing done on?
I think he means that the OEM Cat. Flows Only 43% of the Testpipe...
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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 09:17 AM
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It sounds like what he's saying is that an OEM cat flows 43% as well as a test pipe (meaning the test pipe flows 57% better than the OEM cat). This high flow cat flows 87% as well as a test pipe, so in other words, it flows 44% better than the OEM cat but 13% worse than a test pipe.

If this really is 100% smog legal and won't throw a CEL, this is awesome. I never went the test pipe route because I knew it would never pass smog, especially with the CARB nazis here in CA. Then again, my ebay CAI isn't CARB approved so I'm probably screwed anyway unless I can convince them it's an AEM...
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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 02:16 PM
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Price the same as what's listed on the website?
Yes, regular price is $299.99. Right now they are on 25% off. Your price is $224.99 right now.

Would this be appropriate for a comptech setup with standard boost?
Yes. These metallic core cats are perfect for forced induction. Relentless Autosports just pushed over 500 rwhp through our cats on one of their twin turbo G35's. Same cat core, different car, but you get the picture. That G35 will be shipped back to Germany soon but I'm sure it'll do it's own round of media appearances here in the states first.

So you're saying that this is twice as efficient with respect to flow as the OEM Cat, correct?

What is the weight of this vs. the OEM Cat?

Will this cause a check engine light on an 06 like the test pipe?
Correct. You should dyno within 1hp of a test pipe with our cat.

Weight approx 45% less than the stock cat. Stock cat weighs ~13 lbs, our high flow cat weighs less than 7lbs.

So far has not thrown a CEL on our test 06 & 03 cars.

Hey Bryan how about a group buy for $199 shipped....? I'll take one then....

Matt
Can't go lower than what we are doing already. The only way I can do better is if we come up with some sort of combo on this w/ our header.

Or if you have already purchases our header in the past I'd be more than happy to work something for you guys. We're big on repeat business.

Do you have any Dyno Charts comparing Testpipe vs OEM CAT vs Berk Technology Cat ?

Please PM me a price...

Thanks
Only the flow bench data. We're having HCI magazine do a tech article on our header & high flow cat. I'll have the before/after dyno's on that car.

lets have agroup buy for this thing please!
We can only run one group buy at a time, right now we have our header group buy. But these are already at the price that the group buy would be at.

I can only work something for you if you already purchased our header in the past, or will purchase them together.

What is the CARB number?
No CARB EO on this. The CARB laws are bit sketchy for replacing cats on newer cars (post 1996 cars). Read up on the CARB laws if you need further clarification (or confusion )

Since it's an acutal emissions control device, I don't think it needs a CARB E.O.

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
For CA only, the cat is smog legal (will pass the sniffer test), but isn't technically CARB legal.

For all other states, it is fully legal.

It sounds like what he's saying is that an OEM cat flows 43% as well as a test pipe (meaning the test pipe flows 57% better than the OEM cat). This high flow cat flows 87% as well as a test pipe, so in other words, it flows 44% better than the OEM cat but 13% worse than a test pipe.

If this really is 100% smog legal and won't throw a CEL, this is awesome. I never went the test pipe route because I knew it would never pass smog, especially with the CARB nazis here in CA. Then again, my ebay CAI isn't CARB approved so I'm probably screwed anyway unless I can convince them it's an AEM...
You are correct.

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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 04:21 PM
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How long has it been on your 06, i.e milage and day wise. Any idea if it were to throw a cel how long it would take?
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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 04:21 PM
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I figured it was something like that. IIRC you're not supposed to touch the cat by law, unless a smog tech certifies that you're in need of a new one in order to pass.

Oh well, they won't know the difference.
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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 08:56 PM
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This is 100% illegal in CA.

You cannot use a non-oem cat within the warranty period with the possible exception of theft and then you need a police report on the theft and a letter from the installer. If outside the warranty period (which is 7+ years) you need a letter saying your old one was defective.

That's the legal side, but honestly it would be a cold day in hell for you to get caught with this on.

AND I will be ordering one... Tomorrow.
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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 10:12 PM
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How many miles will this last for?

And is there a 3" in the works?
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