I've ran with groups before who often do a point system for the different r-comps, booth hoosier and kumho 710s have always been assessed a bigger penalty or have been specially mentioned as illegal for those classes.

 

Yep and it's always been based on the manufacturer's treadwear number so no special gaming regs needed. An A6 or R6 is never classed the same as the "road worthy" R comps like the NT01 etc.

 

I don't think it's very cocky at all. Now I know I'm not the fastest guy in the world, in fact I have no shame in saying folks like maxrev or you have been faster than me on equalivant tires but I do feel I hold my own. I've done 1:30s with re01rs at streets and recently had a couple of very quick laps at SMMR which I think I can confidently say is quicker than most s2ks drivers who come out with the same tires, bolt ons, silly suspension setups, and ridiculious big brake kits.

 

Oh now you went and did it.

 

Am I about to get the book thrown at me by all the guys with their tein springs, spoon brake lines, and mad jdm bbks?

 

I think this is what most people are misunderstanding. Neither rylan or I are pushing r-comps because we have them. Both of us have more than enough tires and probably enough money to run any of the aformentioned classes. Prepping the car wouldn't be an issue for either of us.

We're simply speaking from experience of what happened before in the last s2k challenge series. There was a crazy amount of interest right at the begining and by the end of the 2nd and 3rd seasons the only classes with any kind of real competition left was mod.

There's always tons of interest at the begining from people who want to compete, but when the money and time commitments come down to it, you'll be surprised to see who is really left at the end of the season or who really ran 6 events. Speaking from experience people that invest a bit (like dedicated wheels and tires) to actually be competetive will more likely be there at the end of the season than the guy who runs his street car for kicks.

That is all,
Karim

 

Im in...

whatever the rules are...just for fun anyway

I think I'll belong to the modified class but have no problem to go to unlimited
in case I have too (need to calculate)

(still looking for a covered parking spot in LA area for the racecar )


oh...and whats the cost of these events?!

 

I think that's the point being missed here. It is all for fun I have an armful of trophies from various SV challenge series' and it's all nothing but fun and bragging rights. Certainly didn't further my career any

 

Judging from the size of this book, you better duck

 

I'm sure things have changed some, but it's not like you guys are doing something we haven't already done before either.

Your updated list makes it clear. If there are that many people who have stock cars on street tires that want to make a real try at it then I'll happily stfu. But I think you'll find most once they become halfway proficient at the track that they'll want into mod anyway leaving stock pretty barren of actual competition at the events. So why not just either get rid of it, or make it so that it's a class someone can still go a decent speed and not be pushed out for getting good tires since thats the single cheapest mod to go faster.

I still believe the best format is a base configuration and everything else should be points from there. You can have the base include r comps or not, that's symantecs. Since you can just as easily subtract points for street tires. Then guys can have a wing for example on an otherwise stock car and keep the street tires and still run in the "base" class.

It allows you the most flexibility in moding your car and likely the best racing.

I'll ignore the other BS. If you think I'm a wild driver you haven't paid much attention.

FWIW And I attended SV events last year in both my unlimited race car and bone stock street car on and off r-comps.

-Ry