2009 S2000 Challenge Series
+ experience is worthy enough
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To attract novice people, I'd recommend an all stock class, similar to autocross stock class rules.
From there on, you can have a street prepared class, and a modified class.
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From there on, you can have a street prepared class, and a modified class.
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From: Pico Rivera
Hi Aaron
Emilio and William forwarded my rule suggestions to you and here are my reasons for those
based on my observation of those S2000s at HPDE events, the percentage looks like this to me
30% are nearly stock and they rarely modified something that greatly contribute into laptimes (intake, exhaust, lower springs, minimal areo bumpers, small Mugen wings, cool wheels etc), I think something equivalant mods up to a stock CR spec is 2nd biggest S2000 crowd
at least 50% or more are modified based on a daily driver S2000, lots of owners in this range have extra money and passion to modified their S2000 (expensive coilovers, non-staggered, areo mods, gearing etc), but they still usually daily drive and track their S2000 on same set of tires (top level street tires or entry level r comp)
less than 20% are highly modified as a dedicated track car, i rarely see S2000s are towed to tracks
I think in order to attract the most CA S2000 drivers out to your events, it would be better to set rules to cover the S2000 community we've seen
if the rules were made for people to follow, some drivers may not want to take stuff off their cars (areo mods, test pipe, header etc) just to run stock class and they don't want to spend more money or strip their cars just to be competitive in Modified class
hopefully this will grow big and becomes mostly a drivers' event for S2000 owners
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Emilio and William forwarded my rule suggestions to you and here are my reasons for those
based on my observation of those S2000s at HPDE events, the percentage looks like this to me
30% are nearly stock and they rarely modified something that greatly contribute into laptimes (intake, exhaust, lower springs, minimal areo bumpers, small Mugen wings, cool wheels etc), I think something equivalant mods up to a stock CR spec is 2nd biggest S2000 crowd
at least 50% or more are modified based on a daily driver S2000, lots of owners in this range have extra money and passion to modified their S2000 (expensive coilovers, non-staggered, areo mods, gearing etc), but they still usually daily drive and track their S2000 on same set of tires (top level street tires or entry level r comp)
less than 20% are highly modified as a dedicated track car, i rarely see S2000s are towed to tracks
I think in order to attract the most CA S2000 drivers out to your events, it would be better to set rules to cover the S2000 community we've seen
if the rules were made for people to follow, some drivers may not want to take stuff off their cars (areo mods, test pipe, header etc) just to run stock class and they don't want to spend more money or strip their cars just to be competitive in Modified class
hopefully this will grow big and becomes mostly a drivers' event for S2000 owners
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[QUOTE=Jaku,Dec 20 2008, 12:30 AM] Hi Aaron
Emilio and William forwarded my rule suggestions to you and here are my reasons for those
based on my observation of those S2000s at HPDE events, the percentage looks like this to me
30% are nearly stock and they rarely modified something that greatly contribute into laptimes (intake, exhaust, lower springs, minimal areo bumpers, small Mugen wings, cool wheels etc), I think something equivalant mods up to a stock CR spec is 2nd biggest S2000 crowd
at least 50% or more are modified based on a daily driver S2000, lots of owners in this range have extra money and passion to modified their S2000 (expensive coilovers, non-staggered, areo mods, gearing etc), but they still usually daily drive and track their S2000 on same set of tires (top level street tires or entry level r comp)
less than 20% are highly modified as a dedicated track car, i rarely see S2000s are towed to tracks
I think in order to attract the most CA S2000 drivers out to your events, it would be better to set rules to cover the S2000 community we've seen
if the rules were made for people to follow, some drivers may not want to take stuff off their cars (areo mods, test pipe, header etc) just to run stock class and they don't want to spend more money or strip their cars just to be competitive in Modified class
hopefully this will grow big and becomes mostly a drivers' event for S2000 owners
Emilio and William forwarded my rule suggestions to you and here are my reasons for those
based on my observation of those S2000s at HPDE events, the percentage looks like this to me
30% are nearly stock and they rarely modified something that greatly contribute into laptimes (intake, exhaust, lower springs, minimal areo bumpers, small Mugen wings, cool wheels etc), I think something equivalant mods up to a stock CR spec is 2nd biggest S2000 crowd
at least 50% or more are modified based on a daily driver S2000, lots of owners in this range have extra money and passion to modified their S2000 (expensive coilovers, non-staggered, areo mods, gearing etc), but they still usually daily drive and track their S2000 on same set of tires (top level street tires or entry level r comp)
less than 20% are highly modified as a dedicated track car, i rarely see S2000s are towed to tracks
I think in order to attract the most CA S2000 drivers out to your events, it would be better to set rules to cover the S2000 community we've seen
if the rules were made for people to follow, some drivers may not want to take stuff off their cars (areo mods, test pipe, header etc) just to run stock class and they don't want to spend more money or strip their cars just to be competitive in Modified class
hopefully this will grow big and becomes mostly a drivers' event for S2000 owners
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Same tires in Stock and Modified? Wow. And who is going to determine whether or not a bumper is considered "aero" or "non-aero?" Too much wiggle room everywhere.
OTOH, I wish you all good luck and can't wait to see pictures of mostly S-only groups!
OTOH, I wish you all good luck and can't wait to see pictures of mostly S-only groups!
Someone needs to develope a deal like this for the East
